If you are a dreamer and not a businessman:5050. If a businessman who wants to dream:5159

Oct 02, 2014,03:13 AM
 

I understand, as many others too, your reservations regarding these two watches and the retrograde hand.

But as Oliver is saying: I also do not think that Patek has produced something that does not work reliably.

However the 5159 changes in movement are that no longer one 48 notched (for each month) wheel is used (like in the 5050) but only a 12 month wheel with a satellite wheel with four notches for February.

Although it means more parts I can imagine that smaller wheels are better to control.

Secondly " speaking against" the 5050 is the fact that most are over 20 years old and regarded by Patek as classic collection with an estimated service.

Patek and estimated are words that can frighten a collector smile

 

On the other side the 5050 is much smaller hence more classic, gives the choice between batons and roman numerals.

And if the 5050 would be a bad in performance the market would be flooded with them but it is not. 

 

As the headline is saying: either you "do not care" about the service and reliability and go for classic or you are concerned and go for the modern.

I personally would also go for the gorgeous 5159 R, but also the G version.

 

 

Moritz

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Patek 5159G operational observations: Pleasantly surprised...

 
 By: jimjenkins : October 1st, 2014-10:07
I had an opportunity to borrow a friends 5159 G for a month to see how a retrograde PP feels like as I always had reservations about this movement. I am a great fan of 5050, but finding one in a condition I like has been unproductive. The sticking retro d...  

It is a must (at least for me) to try ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : October 1st, 2014-12:41
a watch on your own wrist, before buying. Even better it is to "test ride" it that long, but dangerous as well :-) The 5050 looks almost "protestant" compared to the 5159, but the latter has probably some more "spice" in the long run. Both have to run fla... 

patek 5159g

 
 By: geross : October 1st, 2014-13:09
complex watch , but a beauty. definitely looks nice on your wrist. best geross

If you are a dreamer and not a businessman:5050. If a businessman who wants to dream:5159

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : October 2nd, 2014-03:13
I understand, as many others too, your reservations regarding these two watches and the retrograde hand. But as Oliver is saying: I also do not think that Patek has produced something that does not work reliably. However the 5159 changes in movement are t... 

Nice review Jim! How come...

 
 By: GLau : October 2nd, 2014-07:38
...the date change completes before midnight but instantaneous for end of month?? Good luck with your hunt !! Cheers, Gordon

I might have the answer why the date and month change simultaniously and istantaneously ..

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : October 3rd, 2014-10:38
... but the day not! It is quite simple: your observation means that the day wheel is linked to the 24h wheel. The day is always succession: Monday, Tuesday, ... and hence a direct connection to the 24h wheel is "enough". The months and date are connected... 

Thanks Moritz for the explanation which sounds logical.

 
 By: GLau : October 3rd, 2014-11:46
Looking forward to reading more from you on this topic. Gordon

Reviewed the catalogue explenation ...

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : October 10th, 2014-02:18
but it was not a fruitful explanation given by Patek in their 2009/2010 catalogue as the sketch is too rudimental in explanation. A shame. However Jim's observation is the valuable aspect here and the logical connection that I have done is only a result o... 

I think

 
 By: watch-er : October 4th, 2014-11:43
Patek corrected the retro hand problems long ago and the new watch has a 323 caliber and not the older 315 caliber. As for the dates being partially cut off, virtually every watch this company makes with multiple complications and dials has overlapping di...