???The Patek Philippe Seal vs the Geneva Seal???...

May 12, 2009,21:28 PM
 

does this mean all PP watches that have the Geneva seal (w/c is 120+ yrs worth) are now extinct and potentially "Exotic"

I just read the article on WatchTime magazine last night as to what happened. Very interesting read, and highly recommended for PP fans

The PP's I own (I feel), are fairly reliable, and I know some people who have very new more exotic PP models that are defective and not working properly w/ 2-3 AD visits for repair and some going back to Switzerland to PP.

So I dont really know what to make of this PP seal vs Geneva seal.

Some PP models dont work and some Roger Dubuis models dont work, whats the difference???????????????? Ego perhaps????????????????

What do you guys think???????????

Rod

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To be honest

 
 By: Dje : May 13th, 2009-01:34
Hi, The fact that a watch works or not is not linked to having the Geneva Seal or not. The Geneva Seal is mainly about cosmetic finish, and not about reliability! The new Patek Philippe Seal will take into acount reliability, performance, precision. I rea... 

the Watchtime mag article on this matter...not just decoration...

 
 By: p@p@ : May 13th, 2009-04:55
the article clearly implied that PP had a very big beef w/ GS about required testing & overall quality and not just decoration. PP had a beef w/ GS why the Roger Dubuis pieces were allowed to have the seal without all the quality testing required to attai... 

pp seal

 
 By: jgarcia570 : May 13th, 2009-06:46
hi, i read the article in watcquestion h time. it seems to me that for five year patek tried to change the requirments of the geneva seal, i think they wre very mad about Roger Dubuis and Cartier receiving the geneva seal. at the end of the main article b... 

Were they really evaluated by an outside source?

 
 By: Dje : May 13th, 2009-09:04
Hi, I mean: what was evaluated by an outside source? Certainly nothing about reliability, AFAIK! You have the Geneva Seal requirements in the PP catalogue (not the last one)! have a look! The PP Seal will be much stricter both in decoration and function s... 

hi dye it seems to...

 
 By: jgarcia570 : May 13th, 2009-13:55
hi dye it seems to me that it would be better to have an outside source ie geneva seal check the quality of the patek watches. that is the way is done in medicine. different associations look at our work and rate it ecellent or good whatever. i have not h... 

Working Perfectly

 
 By: NJ : May 13th, 2009-15:35
I own several Geneva Sealed Pateks, most fifty years or older and they all run FLAWLESSLY. The Geneva seal criteria has been "modified" several times over the years (the last change with some "assistance" from Patek) and traditionally went well beyond "ae... 

I wonder...

 
 By: MiniCooper : May 13th, 2009-18:33
there are several other great brands that do not have the Geneva seal..... Does it really matter? I have nothing against the Geneva Seal but does it really affect our choice? cheers