Why PP annual calendar is good & beauty of PP case/ dial + some novelties pics

Oct 02, 2011,01:55 AM
 

I attended a seminar sponsored by Patek Philippe Japan and Chronos Japan at The Hour Glass Ginza where the well known watch journalist of Japan, Mr. Hirota, gave the audience some enlightenment of how PP's annual calendars are different and thus better in certain aspects.  Maybe you, PP experts. already know of these, but I thought it would be good to share what I learned in case you want to deepen your admiration for PP. 



In total, more than 130 Patek gathered at THG, and it is not everyday event to see so many Patek (new ones) at one place, so I want to share with you some wonderful pieces as well later.

There has been a series of topics why we love Patek.  And here is sort of related - why Patek is good, practical and long lasting love for us, discussed from the angle of its annual calendars, and the beauty of the case/ dial.

5396








1. Base caliber's strength

There are two camps in the torque of the main spring - so-called "practical" calibers tend to release stronger torque for the potential higher accuracy when worn, while so-called "high-end" calibers tend to release less torque for the durability of each parts.  This is not the debate of good or bad - just each camp has been expected of different things.  Now, PP has been consistently making calibers with relatively "strong" torque release, but not strong enough to give stress to the parts to be worn too quick, but not weak enough to affect the accuracy when worn, since the time of 12-120, in 40s.  The latest 31-260 REG QA, for example, tries to achieve the goal of higher frequency and longer power reserve, while reducing the friction stress for the parts by using Silinvar (R) in escapement.  This strength of the base caliber makes it possible to put on other complication modules flexibly.


5146








2. PP's Annual Calendar

Most Annual Calendar movements uses its Perpetual brother movement, which tend to use a big "leverage" in its mechanism (to forward 3 days at one time).  Now for PP it was logical to take away this big "leverage" by giving up February.  In a nutshell, they do it with several wheels instead of big lever that occupies big space.
The pros for this approach is of course the less space for the mechanism and gives flexibility to modification and variation.  The cons are increased number of parts and thus higher price, and the more parts, the more potential for the parts to be worn out quick - PP responded to this problem by mirror-polishing the wheel, tooth, and cog to reduce friction.  As a result, the increased number of the wheels does not affect much to the overall performance of the caliber.  The oscillation angle is reduced by only up to 10 degrees at most.  This approach is not easy or cost effective and therefore many other brands do not take this approach and just modifies the perpetual calendar mechanism.



Wheel train -> Day (moon) disc -> Month wheel -> Date wheel -> 24 hours indicator





The wheel mechanism for 30-day month and 31-day month.  Much simpler and smaller than the leverage mechanism.





Actual photo.

5205









5205



Now, why so beautiful?

1. Case

Patek cases are mostly made by forging, not cutting.  Rolex, Breitling, and Panerai are other brands who use forging for the case.  Cutting is, in short, cheaper as it doesn't need to make the molder, but at the molecule level it is still "loose" and wouldn't easily be made flat mirror-looking.  Most brands do use forging at some point, but Patek uses forging (except for SS case) almost all the way for wide variety of shape of the cases.  Rolex and Breitling, the shape of the case are relatively easy for forging and not cost as much.  Patek is really standing out in this endeavor.  See your face reflected on the side of Patek case, you wouldn't see much distortion.  (Of course there is always exceptions - very, very good one made with cutting is Laurent Ferrier, but it takes lots of talent and time to achieve that level, meaning, not cheap at all).



You wouldn't see much distortion (relatively speaking) in your face reflecting on the side or on the top of the lug,


2. Dial

Printing (e.g. logo) and painting are relatively thin, but take a long time for drying.  Patek dial is very distinctive compared with other brands - very thin painting, but very vivid.  Must be some secret in the process.  As for the logo or index painting, this white logo is very thinly painted but somehow it doesn't show the hint of the dial color.  They paint thinly THREE times.  The examples of Nautilus show the vivid painting but thin enough to show the base metal brush pattern.




Thinly painted, but the base color does not see through.




The painting on this Nautilus dial is so thin that the unique pattern (brushed metal) on the base shows.


Conclusion (sort of): There is no “perfect watch” in the world, and there are of course weaknesses of Patek, as with any brand. But in total, Patek has less weakness in making watches with the aim to make it last long and spare no expense or labor to make look better, and that is why it is loved and cherished for a long, long time.


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Now, on to other pieces - novelties and new pieces.






















Very, very beautiful for ladies.






Buguette buckle.





Obviously, not for me....








My favorite smile



39.5mm.  Very non-flashy, non-busy dial, and thin (for perpetual), in PT.  My kinda watch smile


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Special thanks: Patek Philippe Japan - Mr. Nagano, Ms. Otsuka,
Mr. Kugaya
                             Chronos Japan - Mr. Matsuzaki, Mr. Hirota, Mr. Suzuki
                             The Hour Glass Ginza - Mr. Momoi and all the staff...

Thanks for reading.

Best,
Ken

This message has been edited by Dje on 2011-10-04 08:36:34 This message has been edited by Dje on 2011-10-06 10:57:28


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Hi ken, great write up and report

 
 By: Mineral : October 2nd, 2011-06:43
Thank you for sharing. No doubt patek has many strengths in the watch making, that's why we love them so much. Cheers

Thanks for sharing Ken.

 
 By: fernando : October 2nd, 2011-07:08
A nice reminder about Pateks legendary annual calenders. cheers fernando

Great write up

 
 By: Zhege : October 2nd, 2011-07:28
and thanks for going through the mechanics of the annual calendar mechanism. Truly there are many reasons to love our PPs, both inside and out

You can't beat German efficiency ...

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : October 2nd, 2011-11:09
as Lange has shown on this subject again ;-) ! But certainly, a true annual calendar from Patek is a must have in any serious collection. Really lovely, lovely watches! In your shown list: the WG 5396 for me, please. Many thanks for a great post. Regards ... 

Thanks a lot for your report Ken

 
 By: foversta : October 2nd, 2011-12:39
It was an interesting presentation by Patek. This complication was really "popularized" by Patek and we are able to find it now in several brands like Lange or Zenith, even Omega. A sort of true speciality coming from Patek. Amongst the Annual Calendars, ...  

Gr8 report Ken ...

 
 By: tumahuk : October 4th, 2011-21:31
Love the new Ladies WT. Looks amazing on wrist shot.

Nice report - on the 5146...

 
 By: Nomer : October 2nd, 2011-13:38
I think the metal bracelet on the 5146 makes all the difference - a real beauty. I only wish Patek allowed this as an option on more models. Thanks for the great report.

Thank you for a balanced report.

 
 By: jimjenkins : October 3rd, 2011-21:17
I really appreciate this kind of balanced report, discussing all the issues -good and not so good. It does not read read like a Patek Love Fest. Perhaps someday we will have a thread on discussing what we dont like about Pateks - i.e. constructive critici... 

Thanks for the report Ken. [nt]

 
 By: wso : October 3rd, 2011-21:51
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Thank you Ken-san!

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 4th, 2011-08:23
I try to add some additional information with my poor English. I hope you’ll understand and enjoy. Though I’m not a Patek admire and sometimes critical to their productions (have written in Chronos Japan), still Patek makes excellent watches a... 

great report!

 
 By: playtime : October 4th, 2011-09:30
it's those seemingly minor details--which your report brings to the fore--that distinguish one brand from the other. thanks for calling attn to those details--helps me appreciate PP. Jason

Thanks ken for your well balanced report.......

 
 By: Topcat30093 : October 4th, 2011-12:03
As you may remember the AC is one of my favourite complications, as it fit fits most day to day requirements.

Instead of 'paint' on dials, could it be another process?

 
 By: MTF : October 4th, 2011-13:10
KIH, Thanks for the report. Regarding the thin-ness of the 'paint' on the dials, could they be electroplating with certain salt solutions? That would achieve as 'thin' a coating or many different hues as you like, according to the current / exposure time ... 

That might be it, MTF... [nt]

 
 By: KIH : October 4th, 2011-14:10
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Thomas-san, thank you for your question. Yes electro plating.

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 4th, 2011-19:21
I'll describe later... HIROTA This message has been edited by KIH on 2011-10-04 21:11:37

Hirota-san, I am not......

 
 By: MTF : October 4th, 2011-21:10
Hirota-san, I appreciate your explanations and await further knowledge. Unfortunately, I am not the famous Dr Thomas Mao But we may have met before, when I was a 'salaryman' in Tokyo: 2000 - 2001 and 2004 - 2006. Regards, MTF This message has been edited ...  

very sorry.. confused...

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 4th, 2011-21:15
MTF-san, sorry for that. And thank you for your great article on Chronos Japan. HIROTA

MTF-san, try to explain...

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 4th, 2011-23:06
Again, I am very sorry MTF-san. I did not give detailed explanation in that seminar and I apologize to confuse you all. Now I try to explain about electro plating and some additional process in dial making… I hope do it well…. Now many dial have same maki... 

Supplement

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 4th, 2011-23:28
Covering lacquer has been thought to be better to have flatter surface. But Patek try to give relatively rough surface (looks sand blasted) on covering lacquer. The dial seems glossy if you see it squarely. But from an angle, you will notice that the surf... 

Hirota-san, I think your English is good enough

 
 By: KIH : October 5th, 2011-22:32
... and your explanation makes sense to me. Thank you! Ken

Very clear technical description

 
 By: MTF : October 6th, 2011-05:41
Hirota-san, Arigatou-gozaimashita. The detailed description is very useful for me to understand 'subtle nuances'. As Hokugo-san said, your English is very good and certainly many quanta ahead of my Japanese! Shitsurei-shimasu, MTF

Thank You Ken!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 4th, 2011-15:51
Thank you Ken for this very nice report! Especially appreciated the detail in the mechanics of the Annual Calendar movement!

Very good presentation by Chronos and Hirota-san, thks Ken for the report

 
 By: Hororgasm : October 6th, 2011-09:21
Even layman like me can appreciate. but I believe that AP and VC and Breguet also use forged casing btw, in most of their range. Please correct me if I am wrong. Best, Horo

Yes, Horo-san, you're right.

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 6th, 2011-12:08
I'll try to explain the difarences later. Please wait for a while... HIROTA

Looking forward to your explanation.....

 
 By: Hororgasm : October 7th, 2011-05:31
Best, Horo