BaselWorld 2010 Patek Phillippe's whole new range of chronographs

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I know you've all long waited to see these pictures. The Patek Philippe 5070 has been a probable favourite for many years. Here comes the time of the new Patek Philippe 5170.

The real news is that this new very classical two counter chronograph doesn't come alone. You'll see a bit later several other choices that will tempt you.

The true news is that you'll keep coming back on the 5170!  




Patek Philippe 5170J

The new Patek Philippe 5170J is a 39mm Calatrava style cased with a moderate thickness of only 10.90mm.

The style of the case and dial is not the major difference with the now gone 5070. The most interesting part is the new calibre that we already saw last fall in the Ladies First chronograph reference 7071. This still new chronograph calibre is the first "simple" manual wind chronograph calibre by Patek Philippe and for a first they did it more than well!    




New reference 5170 and its calibre CH 29-535 PS

You may want to have a look at what I wrote in November about the reference 7071 and the calibre CH 29-535 PS:

patek.watchprosite.com

We can all appreciate what is offered by the new calibre and in the mean time consider it as a perfect complement to the CH 27-70 PS of the 5070.




Better than ever

The very functional performances of a modern automatic chronograph calibre like the one of the 5960 are very appealing and hard to beat on an every day basis.

On the contrary the "old" charm of a manual wind two counter chronograph calibre is comparably appealing, for different reasons.

One of these reasons is the apparent complexity of the numerous parts' dance. Operating the chronograph functions becomes a real pleasure while looking at the back.




Hammers are pressing the hearts, the counters are reset

Furthermore a manual wind chronograph calibre is a better support to show the best finish and the most refined architecture of bridges and levers.

This CH 29-535 PS is an excellent example of such aesthetical virtues.




The chronograph wheels are engaged, the counting has started

We could wonder why such manual wind chronograph calibres have become so rare? Is it because we're not so many to appreciate them or because they would be more difficult to craft than their automatic counterparts? I honestly have no answer!




The chronograph wheels are no longer engaged but the counters are not reset

The classic style of the chronograph seems to be a quite relevant nest for the classic calibre. The traditional cold-forming process used to create this case produces an ever lasting result that may make us hold our breath for years.




The first pulsometre Patek Philippe chronograph in a long while

We've not discussed that aspect yet but the new 5170 is announced only in yellow gold so far. Of course it will certainly be issued in other colours some day. You may be interested in the picture below as it looks strangely pink? As I should be discovering the real thing while you read these words, I may have an answer soon.




Strangely that watch looks pink but don't dream

I'm not a yellow gold watch amateur but until I try this watch I have to say that I have the impression that I could wear it even in this colour. The overall look is really perfectly executed and this calibre is just so……well you know!




Inspired from a classic Calatrava 96 case

I've said earlier that there were several new chronographs from Patek Philippe this year. Let's have a look at a watch we already know, if not with this new dial.

The 5960P adopts a new matt blue sunburst dial that may please those who loved the 5070P!  The dial and hands change but the watch keeps all its other characteristics.




Patek Philippe 5960P and its new matt blue sunburst dial

Then comes the surprise ! We had been long waiting for the 5170 and I'm very happy to see it as it is, but I can say that the most pleasing surprise is the new 5950.

The new Patek Philippe 5950A –yes a steel manual wind chronograph- is the new chronograph of choice for the most discerning collectors. The steel case won't be enough to make it affordable as it offers us a new version of the manual wind split seconds chronograph, using the calibre CHR 27-525 PS of the 5959. The 5950 is seemingly a 39mm cased watch that will please all who were stopped by the very small case of the 5959.

The cushion shaped case and the finely decorated dial will make this watch a true treasure!




Patek Philippe 5950A

The new marvel is obviously inspired by the two cushion shaped vintage chronographs that were shown last fall at the launch of the Ladies First chronograph.

It will also remind us the 5020!




Patek Philippe cushion-shaped split second chronograph in yellow gold

It is in fact a nice combination of the style of the "simple" one with the complication and rarity of the split second one.  Any one ordered it yet?




Patek Philippe cushion-shaped chronograph from 1929 in yellow gold

The next one is probably the proof of the total discontinuation of the ex Lemania based calibre CH 27-70 line and especially the 5004.

Here comes the new split seconds perpetual calendar chronograph. It was certainly more logical for Patek Philippe to add a perpetual calendar to the already existing in-house (and ultra thin) split second chronograph calibre than to work on the base of the new CH 29-535 PS!

The perpetual calendar version offers a more modern dial look, compared to the 5950. I keep my preference for the 5950A, but I can't wait to see the 5951!




Patek Philippe 5951P

Let's finish with two new versions on the base of the real sports chronograph from Patek Philippe. The 5980R on a crocodile strap will add some glamour to sporting activities. The 5N colour of gold is more red than the traditional pink gold and consequently said to be more masculine.

The dark brown to brown dial will add a very warm touch to the heavy case. We know how well it works on the 5167R!




Patek Philippe 5980R

The new charcoal gray to black dial 5980/1A may be a complement to the current blue dial Nautilus. I don't know yet if the blue dial version is replaced or completed.

The white numeral on black background date is particularly nice.  




Patek Philippe 5980/1A and its new charcoal gray and black dial

As you may be thinking right now, I can't wait to handle all these new chronographs and all the other new Patek Philippe models that will certainly come with them.

I hope you enjoyed them.

Cheers

Dje

 

 






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wonderfull news. Thanks for sharing today.

 
 By: patrickh : March 17th, 2010-00:33
One question regarding the 2 sub-dials of 5950A: Why are they both up to 60? my 2 favorite: 5170 even if in yellow gold as the 2 colors for hands are beautifull and 5950A as retro in design. Any idea of official prices for these pieces? Best regards, Patr... 

Thanks Jérôme. [nt]

 
 By: patrickh : March 29th, 2010-13:12
No message body

Thanks for sharing...

 
 By: Rob : March 17th, 2010-00:49
it is great that they maintained the styling cues that have made Patek what it is today, restrained style, classic size etc. That makes it a two for two for the younger Stern for new watches released under his watch. Rare to see such a smooth transition o... 

My pleasure! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:03
nt

Bravo, thanks Jerome!

 
 By: SJX : March 17th, 2010-00:57
Very interesting collection. - SJX

Thanks SJX. nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:04
nt

Thank you

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : March 17th, 2010-01:01
for sharing these wonderful pictures and all the information that goes with them. I have to say, I am very taken with the 5170. I can't wait to see it.

Thanks for the post, Jerome!

 
 By: Allen : March 17th, 2010-01:26
The 5170 is my favorite, closely followed by the 5950. 39mm is perfect for me. My wish has come true!

Thnk you Jerome for the news and photos...............

 
 By: Topcat30093 : March 17th, 2010-02:04
Sorry to be so negative. So far I have not seen anything that has got my heart racing or my credit card & wife panicking. But, it's early days yet.

Too bad for you! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:06
nt

yes....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : March 17th, 2010-02:05
of these "pictures" the 5170 does indeed look to be the most beautiful. The DNA of the 5070, however, is very easy to discern. If i had no Pateks at all, I would be very tempted by the 5170. Such a watch needs to be seen and felt though before one can be ... 

My pleasure Allen! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:05
nt

thanks for sharing : wonderful interesting post [nt]

 
 By: chronoman19 : March 17th, 2010-02:30
No message body

Thanks Walter! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:06
nt

Jerome, if there are any samples and you have spares........

 
 By: watch-guy.com : March 17th, 2010-02:48
First choice the split second chrono followed very closely by the new in house 2 register beauty Keep the pics coming Jullian

Dje wrote the post...

 
 By: dxboon : March 17th, 2010-06:33
...but was without computer access at the time the embargo on this information was lifted, so Art kindly helped out and posted to the forum in his stead. Cheers, Daos

Mercy Jerome

 
 By: Quan : March 17th, 2010-03:14
wonder what would be the prices

Thanks! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:08
nt

Thanks Dje...

 
 By: drsh : March 17th, 2010-04:02
for the leg up...wish I could be in Basel!! sh

Great work, Jerome.

 
 By: amanico : March 17th, 2010-04:21
Very nice presentation of the new PP creations, my friend. Will have to think about them, and to see them in the flesh before any definitive judgement. The new 5960 P is a perfect example... Dressy, with the discontinued ( ? ) ruthenium dial, or a bit spo... 

5070 vrr 5170

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : March 17th, 2010-06:01
Nicolas said exactly what i was thinking. First, i think one needs to see them in reality. Feel them, watch how the angles reflect. Wear them. But my initial gut reaction was a question. The 5070s are flawed to an extent. The lamania movement works so muc... 

Thanks Nicolas! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:09
nt

An awesome new lineup from Patek!

 
 By: dxboon : March 17th, 2010-06:36
My favorite of the lot is the 5950, but to be honest, all the new models are quite attractive! Kudos to Patek! Thanks for the wonderful report, Dje (and thanks Art for posting)! Cheers, Daos

Thank you Daos! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:10
nt

That is quite a lineup of chronos

 
 By: respo : March 17th, 2010-06:57
Great report and congratulations to PP. The 5059A is without doubt my favorite, and actually the only one that really speaks to me from the new collection of chronos. I love the idea of a split seconds movement encasesd in stainless steel. And this one is... 

I have a naughty lust...........

 
 By: sclamb : March 17th, 2010-07:17
for that new 5980 Nautilus with the grey/black dial. Interesting to see what the new annual calendar Nautilus will look like too Simon

Wow, Simon...Are you in for another of your miraculous ( but a bit expensive ) ...

 
 By: amanico : March 17th, 2010-07:24
Walk? Naughty ...Boy. Best, my friend. Nicolas

Well I already had the walk....

 
 By: sclamb : March 17th, 2010-07:37
when I took the PAM312 back to the AD and I see that PPs are not easy to come by! Lead time on the white gold 5712 is July, the SS 5712 is end of 2010. The 5980 - when they are made. Simon

un GRAND CRU ...

 
 By: simplicity : March 17th, 2010-07:48
thanks a lot for sharing

Thank you Jerome....I can't

 
 By: CL : March 17th, 2010-08:58
pinpoint what's wrong with 5170. It looks like a modern piece trying to be a vintage. Is it the text or something....am I the only one feeling it? It is so close to perfection but yet it just fall flat for me. Dial wise, I will pick 5070 any day. I truly ... 

tks for sharing

 
 By: porter505 : March 17th, 2010-09:23
however i prefer old dial/color of 5960P, the new dial is a too bright-coloured and looks like a fake one. just my 2 cents..

Thx...Jerome...

 
 By: little501 : March 17th, 2010-09:33
Sounds that many innovations. But I still prefer the good old days...5070/5004/old dial 5960P...etc JMHO... Anyway, 5950A is eye-catching. How would you compare it with the 5959P? Finally, could you be kind enough to post other special models like the 533... 

the 5170

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : March 17th, 2010-09:57
is a very nice watch but I prefer the 5070 the 5070 is much more balanced and the dial and case are also nicer ... the 5070 will remain my most favorite chronograph eve rmade About the size , 39 mm .... damn that's a pity I won't say all the watches need ... 

cant wait to see live pics

 
 By: aldossari_faisal : March 17th, 2010-11:11
thanks for posting . Faisal

Again my pleasure. nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:15
nt

Thank you, Dje! Personally, I liked more the..

 
 By: radone : March 17th, 2010-11:33
arabic numerals on the 5070. Amazing new introductions.

Why do I keep scrolling back to the 5950?

 
 By: efftee : March 17th, 2010-11:55
Might well be the Chrono for me. Thanks for the pics.

Thanks Jerome....

 
 By: MiniCooper : March 17th, 2010-12:08
for a great report.... the most interesting to seems the ss 5950.... is the retail price announced yet? (although from your report I fear that I should not ask) cheers

a lot ;-)

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : March 17th, 2010-12:13
the 5959 is around 280 K euro (if I remember correct) so I'm afraid this 5950 which has the same movement will be in the same range. Steel might be a bit cheaper than platinum but even if it would be 20K less, it still won't be affordable for 99% of us.

You are wrong.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : March 17th, 2010-12:19
it will not be affordable for 99.99 % of us..... lol thanks for the info.... cheers

yup, I was wrong ... seems to be 315K

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : March 18th, 2010-10:22
and we're talking about 315K EURO !!

Wow.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : March 18th, 2010-11:03
thanks.... cheers

My pleasure PP! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:20
nt

Thanks, Jerome, for the interesting report.

 
 By: masterspiece : March 17th, 2010-13:06
I like the blue dial on the 5960. Never really cared for the slate/ruthenium dial. Happy to see PP bringing back the cushion shape especially in the 5950. Would love to see them in the metal. Aloha, Bob

My pleasure Bob! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:21
nt

Wow, this is a big year for Patek Philippe!

 
 By: patrick_y : March 17th, 2010-13:22
Very nice! Thanks for sharing! Looking forward to seeing other new Nautilus pieces and perhaps even a new annual calendar.

Thanks Patrick! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:22
nt

WOW, this will be a year i Patek history to remember

 
 By: ChristianDK : March 17th, 2010-13:58
Hi Dje what an amazing stream of watches they release this year. thank you for a great report, Dje best Christian

Thanks Christian! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:22
nt

You mean the 5951? Yeah right, darn ugly, and only 2 pieces will sell in 5 years

 
 By: LarryFRCGP : March 19th, 2010-14:25
and Patek will stop production before you regret it and next thing you know, something will bid for it for US$2M That's was the story about 5020 which is easily 3x the price of a 3970. Go figure. Larry.

Excellent way to introduce us the 2010 novelties.

 
 By: foversta : March 17th, 2010-15:44
Thanks a lot Jérôme for this interesting post: 2010 seems to be a very productive year for Patek. Fr.Xavier PS: my shot of two of the inspirations... This message has been edited by foversta on 2010-03-17 15:46:12...  

5170 steals the show, ....for me.

 
 By: arolex : March 17th, 2010-17:27
Beautiful watch, with a great 1940's look. Great size, pulsation dial is ultra cool. Love the two different colored counter hands and calatrava style case. I personally would have prefered the use elegant leaf hands vs. straight sword, but it's still a ve... 

Thanks Arthur. nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:24
nt

Thanks. Great info.

 
 By: VMM : March 17th, 2010-18:15
Very nice news from Patek, will see them live on sunday. Thanks. Vte

My pleasure VMM. nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:24
nt

So the TV-Shape Patek is back

 
 By: LarryFRCGP : March 17th, 2010-20:43
Long Live 5020!!!! Now I have a new target for the next 10 years..5951. That would be a nice companion to my 5020R Enjoy. Larry...  

cool :-)

 
 By: ChristianDK : March 18th, 2010-00:11

Can't wait to see the 5950A.

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : March 17th, 2010-21:39
Thanks so much for this post, Jerome! Best, CaliforniaJed

Among the new line-up, the 1 most likely to

 
 By: happyguy1688 : March 17th, 2010-21:55
order will be 5170 if in RG and with Breguet numeral instead of Roman

The wait is finally over! Thanks DJE! [nt]

 
 By: shattuck86 : March 17th, 2010-22:14
No message body

I think...

 
 By: mac_omega : March 18th, 2010-06:52
Sorry to say - I think no one for me :-(      even if I had the matching size of wallet! The new movement is very beautiful but the case is boring and the dial looks cheap compared to the 5070 - looks like a fake as somebody already has poi... 

What a lineup...

 
 By: Goh : March 18th, 2010-06:57
I am very interested to see the new 5980/1A on this charcoal/black dial. Any idea when would this be available? I hope that it isn't too long as it is just a change of dial. I only hope that the bracelet for it is a little thicker, as it looked somewhat t... 

Thanks Goh! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:26
nt

Great post.....But I sure am relieved as I always dread this time of year because.......

 
 By: Miles151 : March 18th, 2010-08:49
It normally spells days and weeks of wanting and fantasizing over one of Pateks new offerings..... But not this year.... Whilst I like what has been released I will not be rushing to my AD.... The new chrono is nice but just not for me.....The movement ho... 

I'm glad I saved you Miles! ! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-13:27
nt This message has been edited by Dje on 2010-03-29 13:28:08

in due course

 
 By: Hororgasm : March 19th, 2010-10:19
i am NOT in love with the 5170, which is actually GREAT news. every patek that i own take me a long time to fall in love with, and as such i stay in love with them for a long long time. dun kbow why, watches that takes my breath away i then to bore of the... 

Do we know of the list price for the fabulous 5951

 
 By: LarryFRCGP : March 19th, 2010-14:21
I hope it is still less than a 5016.. Larry

What a firework

 
 By: tempus : March 19th, 2010-23:25
The new President introduces himself with very impressing new watches! But the splitsecond chronos are 440.000,00 and 500.000,00 CHF. OH MY GOD...THAT'S A FORTUNE. Do I really want do this? To be honest, 5004 would be good enough for me! 5070P and my belo...