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5146G, printed or applied moon phase?
Hello all,
I've been a long time lurker around these forums, mainly in the Patek and Lange sections.
I currently don't own any 'real' high end watches yet, but I'm planning to get either a Lange 1 MP or a 5146G and am doing as much research as I can.
First of all, I'd like to apologise if this has been asked before or if it has been thoroughly discussed in another topic...
When comparing a lot of shots of the 5146G with each other, it suddenly drew my attention that the moon phase indicator doesn't always look the same, is it me, or has this been revised somewhere along the way?
I can't really seem to find a clear answer on the changes made to the reference throughout time, can someone enlighten me here? Or perhaps give some pointers to some comprehensive reading material on the matter?
I can't really seem to find a clear answer on the changes made to the reference throughout time, can someone enlighten me here? Or perhaps give some pointers to some comprehensive reading material on the matter?
This is what I'm talking about:
The moon and stars look like they have been printed on there, showing a shadow instead of a reflection, opposed to the shot below where they are clearly made of metal and 'lay' on top of the dial:
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5146G, printed or applied moon phase?
Hello all, I've been a long time lurker around these forums, mainly in the Patek and Lange sections. I currently don't own any 'real' high end watches yet, but I'm planning to get either a Lange 1 MP or a 5146G and am doing as much research as I can. Firs...
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