Please suggest Patek companion piece to the ALS L1MP

Feb 23, 2015,08:12 AM
 

Greetings to a very knowledgeable crew!  I've been reading the Patek forum for years and admire the insight and intelligence of the advice on this forum.  Here's my situation: I'm well aware that Patek and Lange are the big two.  There used to be a big three but it seems that most serious watch collectors acknowledge that the Patek and Lange manufacturers and #1 and #2 with a sizeable gap separating the remainder of the list.  I want two watches in my life and two watches only.  I want to actually wear them and love them and look at them every morning when I decide which one to wear.   

My first watch is the A. Lange & Sohne Lange 1 Moonphase in RG with dark brown strap and RG deployant clasp.  The watch is relatively thin (it's height is at 10mm) and it serves as a relatively sober dress watch under my dress shirt sleeve.  Although not terribly important - from a wardrobe perspective the L1 compliments brown leathers and yellow gold buckles.

Now I'm looking to acquire an annual calendar from Patek.  Four references are on my list: 5146, 5396, 5726, and 5205.  I'd like to go with a white metal case (PLT, WG or SS) and black strap w/ deployant buckle.  Yes, that would mean my only two watches are both moon phases but is okay.  By the way, while the L1 is a manual wind, I'd keep the AC on a winder so I don't lose the time, date, moonphase, etc.  In theory I'd stay with these 2 watches long term so I want a AC design that will always look like a Patek and not "what were they thinking when they designed this one?!" 

The 5146P and 5146G (black dial) look strikingly similar.  Surprisingly, on the Collectors Market they're closer than I thought they'd be.  The 5146 strikes me a quintessential but also a playfully full dial, with the subdial pointers not being the cleanest way to articulate the day of the week and month - but pulling it off in a balanced form.  Even the platinum could be worn with a nice pair of dark jeans it seems.

The 5396G is a high end Calatrava with its clean, formal, white dial - packing in a lot of tech in a thin package.  This watch gives the impression (in photographs and videos) to be dressier and less likely to be well paired with casual attire.  The design of this watch is the most conservative of the four IMHO.

The 5726/A1 would appear to be the tank of the four, but the most tastefully engineered tank ever created.  The moonphase pops off the white dial more so than the dark blue dial, but both dials are wonderful.  WIth the blue dial one can choose the black strap - however the white dial is perhaps more rare/unique as it's more difficult to find and commands a more dear ransom.

The 5205 (in either dial) wins the dramatic Oscar and is the most visually stunning.  This watch demands attention and pulls the eye toward it when you're looking at a case full of Pateks.  It's a relative new comer and so beautifully executed that it seems poised for stardom in Patek's AC ranks.

The bottom line is IF you could only represent the marking and enjoyment of time with two time pieces - and one of them were already chosen for you (L1 MP in RG), what would be your 2nd watch?  Many thanks.


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5726/1A

 
 By: keks : February 23rd, 2015-10:18
5726/1A gray dial without a doubt reading your message. Would add a lot of versatility and a contrast to your ALS. 5205G gray dial is a real beauty and great consideration if another dress watch is more suited to your lifestyle. However 2 dress watches is... 

Thank you for your input keks!

 
 By: Robert1965 : February 23rd, 2015-12:42
Upon reviewing the 5960 I can understand your high regard for that piece. I liked the black dial of the 5960 very much. Actually I should modify my Patek wish list because I've found that a dark dial on the AC will provide a nice opposite to the light col... 

5726 imo would be a nice addition although I do have a

 
 By: stradman : February 23rd, 2015-14:45
soft spot for the 5960p as already mentioned. Not sure your initial remark however about Patek and Lange being 1 and 2 is entirely true though. No question about Patek. Its the Lange I'm not so sure about. There are many issues and arguments about what co... 

Thanks!

 
 By: Robert65 : February 24th, 2015-09:30
Thank you stradman for your valued input. I understand that I leaned forward on the #1, #2, large gap statement - and it was unnecessary.

5205...

 
 By: foversta : February 23rd, 2015-14:52
I own a Lange One and I think that the 5205 is a great companion. I like its more contemporary design for a Patek and its case is stunning! :) Fx ...  

I would vote for a 5205G

 
 By: abe : February 23rd, 2015-15:31
A beautiful piece and will complement your Lange 1 nicely; its great for casual wear as well as a formal occasion. I love the way lugs are sculpted and hollowed out. Just my humble opinion. Best of luck and let us know what you decide.

AC

 
 By: pfslai : February 23rd, 2015-15:37
In terms of the look and legibility of Patek's AC, I like the 5205 the most. However, the 5146 wins me over because the power indicator is important to me. I think both have the "patek" look. As for the 5396, it's very straight forward dial but the proble... 

Excellent responses - many thanks

 
 By: Robert65 : February 24th, 2015-08:48
Thank you pfslai - I agree that the 5205 is a modern beauty, highly legible and love that big PATEK PHILIPPE in the northern hemisphere of the dial. I had the good fortune to try on a grey dial 5205 at my AD recently and thought it was a stunner. The blac... 

2 watches

 
 By: pfslai : February 24th, 2015-10:11
I'm sort of like you in that I was thinking about having just 2 watches. I have a 5712 and now have the 5146g on order. Now I'm thinking that I may not be able to stop at 2 watches...

Great combination! Two great pieces...

 
 By: Robert65 : February 25th, 2015-06:34
Do you have (or are you going to acquire) a multi-watch winder to keep those moonphases/dates/times in synch? Or do you alternate them frequently enough - or manually wind them periodically - so you don't have to reset them? Not sure if you own additional... 

winding

 
 By: pfslai : February 25th, 2015-12:07
I'm still waiting for my 5146G to arrive. But I do have watch winders which I use periodically for my 5712/1a. I also wind it manually. I keep my watch in different places around the house because I'm paranoid about burglars. My house was broken into a fe... 

Sorry to hear about the break in...

 
 By: Robert65 : February 26th, 2015-11:58
Thank you for your kind responses.

You have similar taste...

 
 By: meatrackmd : February 26th, 2015-14:27
i am enjoying my patek 5712a at the moment, primarily due to its versatility. However, I always envied the mature and sexy look of the ALS 1MP, in rose gold. The best variation of this to me has the moon phase wthin the time display. I would consider owni... 

5712/1A

 
 By: keks : February 27th, 2015-07:21
5712/1A must be as good as it gets for a stainless modern daily wearable watch. Just took it along on a beach holiday and wow how it shines out to sea…! There are many modern variations of Nautilus that are incredibly tempting, but none that I would give ... 

5146p

 
 By: takei : February 28th, 2015-12:48
hi Robert, Go with the 5146p. I bought it after initially hunting for the g version, but found the p dial much more sober and the whiteness of the platinum just stunning. I further agree that the 5146 in the white metal versions and slate (g model) or ebo...  

GREAT watch! Congrats...

 
 By: Robert65 : March 1st, 2015-15:00
Switching your sights from G to P must have taken some courage - and it looks like it really paid off nicely because it's a fantastic piece. I can see that watch worn well with a custom cut business suit or with a pair of jeans and dress shirt. I picture ... 

Why an annual calendar...

 
 By: ciaca : March 15th, 2015-14:50
When you can get a beautiful perpetual calendar like the ref. 3940 paying it less? Regards

3940 Perpetual Calendar for less than 5146p - so true!

 
 By: Robert65 : March 23rd, 2015-07:33
Yes, I've started looking in that direction. Specifically the 3940j (or more so the r) from the 3rd series. Mid 30s. Interesting!

Yellow, rose or white...

 
 By: ciaca : March 23rd, 2015-12:14
Still remains one of the best looking perpetual calendar ever made by the company in the last half century and yet one of the most undervalued Patek ever Regards