Re let me clarify

Mar 29, 2015,20:24 PM
 

Let me clarify here that my watch was only 1 month past the 2 year warranty so it was not really that old. Also, my AD ordered a brand new one for me when I got it (it was double sealed). 

Overwinding or under winding was not the issue here. The watch would wind great and would go for 40-50 hours. Cal. 324 in those watches does have the overwind protection. One can in fact hear the main spring slips inside the main spring barrel if you overwind it, same way it does in most automatic movements. The dynometric crown feature does indeed come in 5170 or similar manuals, but not needed in automatics since they are all protected from it (for the same reason on the wrist those watches can't overwind). 

I don't know if the sticking date issue has to do with dried out oil, but I do wear this watch frequently. May be it was not oiled correctly during initial assembly. Of course most of us here have several watches and we don't therefore wear them every single day. I have the same 324 calibre annual calendar and another one with calibre 240, which I wear less often than my 5127 and those have no issue at all. Patek is an incredible brand and deserves the most respect from us collectors but this forum is also meant to share information about the watches that we are passionate about.  If I do have any odd problem with my watch which none else ever mentioned, I agree that there is no need to go public about it, but if the same issue is reported in the same movement dozens of times, I think it is good that we share this, so that Patek can address this issue. Afterall, we want these watches to be flawless. With that said, I do consider this issue being minor and it happens with all the brands (I had this happen to my Rolexes twice in fact). Patek resolved this in a great way and I am very pleased. Finally, they make the most diverse number of complicated movements and watch cases in the world and an issue like that is not an issue when it gets fixed and never happens again. Just my opinion. 


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Sticking date on my 5127R

 
 By: carnegie : September 23rd, 2014-22:02
Sadly my 5127R has developed the sticking date issue. The watch just turned 2 years (warranty expired 2 months ago since I purchased it from an AD). However, I have worn the watch only occasionally. Very frustrating. Anyone else with this experience? ...  

I had the same with my Aquanaut 5167...

 
 By: sanro : September 23rd, 2014-22:44
About three years after the purchase. So the warranty had expired and it cost me 1000euro+ to repair. However, the movement is not the same, so it may just be a coincidence. Frustrating, though.

sorry to read this...

 
 By: social : September 24th, 2014-02:12
...hardly believe that PP didn't handle this simple date function in this rather new watch...if it is occasionally worn in careful manner. hope you could get positive solution from PP soon.

That's really sad..

 
 By: Mally : September 24th, 2014-03:12
& much as I admire their watches, legacy & the brand; why does PP insist on continuing with a non hacking watch... Mally

If.....

 
 By: Conkers : September 24th, 2014-06:31
......it is only two months out of warranty, I am sure there will be a goodwill gesture made. Sorry to hear this.

Ahi ahi ahi!!!

 
 By: japojapo : September 24th, 2014-10:30
I had a terrible experience 15 years ago with a 5004P. 2 seriuos technical problems at the split!! 2 times to Geneva!! No money problems, PP repaired it twice free and Mr. Stern each time gifted me a PP book for excuses, but I waited 2 TIMES 2 YEARS!!! Pa... 

Thank you all...

 
 By: carnegie : September 24th, 2014-11:39
for you encouraging responses. I really needed them now! I would like to ask those who did have this issue, whether it would happen again after the watch was fixed? Is that a problem with 324 movement that remains or it is just a quality control issue? I ... 

Really sorry for you

 
 By: Mike H : September 24th, 2014-14:20
I can understand your frustration. I really believe this is bad luck, never heard of anything like this. Yes keep us posted of the outcome how PP handles the situation for you. Bon courage my friend. Mike

Try this simple test then send it for repair...

 
 By: jimjenkins : September 24th, 2014-16:50
After reading your comments that you wear the watch occasionally, I would suspect that this problem may be due to insufficient power held by the mainspring during the date change period. I suggest that you wind the watch, then force the date to move using... 

Winding

 
 By: rcg412 : September 24th, 2014-19:23
I agree. Try winding it up and see how it goes.

unfortunately the watch is fully wound...

 
 By: carnegie : September 25th, 2014-06:34
Hi guys, thanks for trying to help! Unfortunately, the watch was fully wound. I always give it 40 turns before putting it on (I know Patek recommends 10 but Rolex recommends 40 with the same power reserve of 45-48h). It depends of course in the size of th... 

For what it's worth...

 
 By: bsodmike : October 1st, 2014-04:48
I do not believe there should be any limit on how many times you need to wind the movement (even if Patek say 10 times), as that click indicates you're protected against over-winding. One should be able to take a watch from a drawer, wind it to full sprin... 

Thanks Mike

 
 By: carnegie : October 1st, 2014-12:07
for the note. I am surprised you don't wear your 5127 more often. Probably the larger 5146 is in the way:) I will let you guys know how it all works out. The watch is currently with Patek.

Update from Stern Agency NY

 
 By: carnegie : October 9th, 2014-21:05
Hi guys, Wanted to update you. I sent my watch to Henri Stern Agency in NY. I received the confirmation by mail in 2 days that my watch safely arrived and I will be contacted asap, once it has been evaluated. I was contacted today (in 3 more days), that P... 

what happened to the sticking date ?

 
 By: echauhan : March 28th, 2015-09:56
Hi, my Calatrava 5153J with the 324 movement has the sticking date, will be going for service as it's still under warranty, was wondering if the original forum poster's repair was completed, how long it took, and if the sticking date issue is cured or sti... 

All is fixed! Great job from Patek

 
 By: carnegie : March 28th, 2015-10:17
Got my watch back in less than 9 weeks. It's all fixed and running perfectly. Very happy with the service. My watch was out of warranty but Patek fixed it free of charge and gave it complete service. Very happy with everything.

great to hear it's fixed running well !

 
 By: echauhan : March 28th, 2015-10:20
nice to hear that fix didn't take forever and they honored the warranty past expiry! any way of knowing what was the issue causing the sticking date ?

re

 
 By: carnegie : March 28th, 2015-10:41
I was only told that the watch needed complete service. It looks like this is the answer that most of us got when this happened. Someone here said he has the reason but never told me what it was.

Happy for you!

 
 By: watchmaven : May 21st, 2015-15:58
The people up at Henri Stern are very nice and I'm pleased to hear they are going to take care of the issue. Though we want and expect our timepieces to run perfectly from time to time there are issues with them.

Several points

 
 By: watch-er : March 28th, 2015-15:18
PP uses a very fine oil but thin oil which tends to dry quicker than oils used by other brands. Regular wearing helps prevents sticking problems. These watches are meant to be worn, perhaps more so than others. Periodically putting the watch on a winder w... 

Re let me clarify

 
 By: carnegie : March 29th, 2015-20:24
Let me clarify here that my watch was only 1 month past the 2 year warranty so it was not really that old. Also, my AD ordered a brand new one for me when I got it (it was double sealed). Overwinding or under winding was not the issue here. The watch woul... 

sticking date fixed in 6 weeks

 
 By: echauhan : May 21st, 2015-14:01
the sticking date on the caliber 324 SC on my 5153 was repaired under warranty and back in 6 weeks! A step in the right direction for Patek. Seems like they may be prioritizing warranty work these days. Just got it back yesterday, but running about 5 seco...