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Wow! That is a superb love song for the RDM, Velociphile.
Jan 21, 2012,09:09 AM
And I totally suscribe to your words. By thge way, I couldn't choose nor write them better.
I also agree on the fact that this is a watch to see in the flesh to fully appreciate it.
A watch to feel, rather than simply seeing it on pics.
My opinion on the new iteration is worth nothing compared to the owners point of view.
If I wanted to say it better, I would write that I find it nice, but will it replace the former version in the heart of its owners, that, I don't know.
I can't answer to that, as I didn't own it.
Thanks for your remarkable input, Velociphile.
Best,
Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2012-01-21 09:10:03
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SIHH 2012: Jaeger-LeCoultre - The new models.
By: amanico : January 16th, 2012-01:08
I decided this year to show you the new releases we'll have the pleasure to see in Geneva, at the SIHH. Here, you will only see the official pictures, and, of course, we'll see all those new watches, one by done, in a more detailled and dedicated article....
Thanks Nicholas, I am intrigued by the Reverso Triple
By: kpk : January 16th, 2012-01:17
Calendar. Does this have a transparent case back? Also, will a version be offered in SS? This model immediately tugs for my attention. The Reverson Skeleton also looks interesting. I did 'guess' the Duometre Tourbillon in a post a few weeks ago.
Nooooooooo ...
By: moc : January 16th, 2012-01:26
the worst fear came alive! Jost joking,i am releived as its quite unaffordable,but what a watch!CAn t wait to see more. Blue Reverso skeleton is very nice but I fear its going to be unreasonable like the other blue enamel. Nice effort with the MUT tourbi,...
love the triple date reverso
By: darma : January 16th, 2012-01:30
and i too am interested to see what the back reveals on this piece. regards darma
Wow,that will make it..
By: moc : January 17th, 2012-02:31
a whopping over 50k maybe 55 by the time its out....a bit absurd if you let me,considering what you can buy with that money. Consider that the blue enamel(or maybe just the dial!)costs like the Duometre...A watch or a dial?I take the former please. Cant w...
OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By: Ruckdee : January 16th, 2012-01:35
My friend, you have just pierced my heart with a very sharp JPG file. You know which one it is. Thank God and JLC for listening to my wishes. A very troubled Ruckdee
I hope your right....
By: Andy : January 16th, 2012-10:03
but a basic reverso is £5-6K so I'd guess nearer £8-9K for this beauty, but lets hope they adjust some of the pricing to help us all buy more Yours, Andy.
No rush my friend...
By: Andy : January 17th, 2012-04:32
and thank you for posting a preview of the pieces offered (are there more to come..?) The full review with live pics from you will be a little gem to look forward too once all the panic is over this week.! Hope you have had a great trip and havn't had too...
Still in Geneva, Andy...
By: amanico : January 17th, 2012-15:03
Yes, there is a bit more to come.... And interesting, too. Best, Nicolas
Offical VIDEO on Youtube :
By: Mark in Paris : January 16th, 2012-04:43
here is the link (also available on JLC's website): www.youtube.com watch?list=PL250F133C3C7F5C4A&v=wqhL4v6Xeoo&feature=player_embedded#!
very impressed!
By: PRT : January 16th, 2012-02:13
first post here, long time lurker and fan of JLC! this year's releases make me greedy...triple date reverso high on my list
Good selection
By: Le Monde Edmond : January 16th, 2012-02:26
JLC has come up with a broad selection of new watches. They are some tasty treats here especially the new atmost (I think its stunning) and the new diving chronograph. Thank you for the timely update Nicolas! Have a great week! Edmond
Many things to say, yes...
By: amanico : January 17th, 2012-15:06
And still a few surprises... A clever year, from JLC. Best, Edmomd. Nicolas
Wow
By: willski : January 16th, 2012-02:34
Wow a lot of new pieces, and some of them extremely nice looking...
Nice novelties.
By: VMM : January 16th, 2012-02:45
Love to see a renewed Master Control, it's great to have the beautiful Master RDM back with us, and I absolutely love the Ultra Thin Tourbillon, what a fantastic and balanced watch, IMHO. Thanks, Nico. Vte
As usual JLC never fails...
By: foowy : January 16th, 2012-02:46
I love the fact they find ways to innovate classicism I love the fact they are not following the trends I love the fact that they do not innovate for the sake of innovating I love the small sublime improvements made to the Master Control & RDM, like the s...
I don't want to spoil the party...
By: willski : January 16th, 2012-02:52
..but I just had a look at the JLC website and there is a WG Grand Reverso 1931 (white dial blue hands) and also a blue enamel grand reverso?? What a year for JLC (imo so far). The spherotourbillion looks astounding, and the Triple Calendar is already gar...
We alredy had a pre view on the Blue Enamel Reverso....
By: amanico : January 17th, 2012-15:17
And yes, I still have to speak about the YG Reverso Grained dial, but there yere no available pictures when I prepared this post... Do not worry, all the watches will be shown. Best, Nicolas
Apologies!
By: willski : January 18th, 2012-00:54
I must have missed that post and apologies; don't want to seed over-eager but my patience is weakening with all these gorgeous pieces being released! :P As always, thanks for your pics, opinions, and fast updates! Hope you are having an awesome time at SI...
Nice additions ...
By: nilomis : January 16th, 2012-04:30
Nicolas, Thank you for your amazing great work by inform us. In respect to the new models, I'm unsure if they "sing" the song to me. The main beauty, IMHO, is the "Deep Sea Chronograph" but the lack of running seconds ... no deal or dream. Point to JLC to...
Well, Nilo, I can understand that
By: amanico : January 17th, 2012-15:21
We all have our own taste, and no necessity to get another watch, but there are some positive points, here, which are important signs, too. I strongly believe that JLC did another great SIHH. Best, Nicolas
It may be another "never say never" ...
By: nilomis : January 18th, 2012-02:26
Let's see, in special the DSVC, "in metal". I never forget my initial hate of some other watches that changed to true love. Cheers and, again, many thanks for your expedition to SIHH. Nilo
Better than my expectation :)
By: TdotBean : January 16th, 2012-04:40
Among the novelties I find the MUT, Duometre Tourbilon and Reverso Blue enamel skeleton most interesting. I foresee another stellar year for JLC Regards Tyler
Very classy
By: Ambos : January 16th, 2012-06:05
Thank you for your swift posting! Still trying to digest the Mother of all Duometres... Rumour has it that something 'fast' is still around the corner resp is to be unveiled... Looking forward to your next batch! PS: real pity JLC is moving away from my a...
I really like the way...
By: KenMNYC : January 16th, 2012-07:15
...JLC is distinguishing in design their Master Control pieces in two camps. The Ultra-Thin case profile for dressier and more complicated pieces. And the more robust (but still refined) case profile for the more simple and casual pieces. This is welcome ...
A number of temptations.. really classy touch this Year ..
By: hs111 : January 16th, 2012-10:20
.. the Reverso Triple Date caught my eye right away, (and although I'm always into ss, even in RG for this one). - the Spherotourbillion Duometre an eclectic piece, but out of reach, anyway. - Further liked the puristic Master Control , the DS Chrono a st...
Wow, so many great pieces
By: gsb : January 16th, 2012-10:21
Already knowing about the Reverso Rogue, the two stand out pieces for me are definitely the Master Control in SS and the Duometre a Spherotourbillon. JLC really knocked it out of the park this year!
Cool pieces!
By: Albert.J : January 16th, 2012-10:35
love master reserve de marche and reverso calender! 39mm is my favorite size!
Beautiful photos...
By: nwp627 : January 16th, 2012-11:03
...of beautiful watches, thank you Nicolas. I however made my first mistake on this forum. I was so interested in seeing the new novelties that I invited my wife to join me in the viewing. I am afraid that there may be a quartz Reverso in my/our future. N
Now, that is a real mistake. :)
By: amanico : January 18th, 2012-12:20
But, as my Contact at the Manufacture says " You guys, you do not take enough care of your better half "... Do I have to precise that my Contact is a lady? Best, Nicolas
I assume your contact...
By: nwp627 : January 18th, 2012-19:16
...may be correct! However, in my case, I think that will change.
A magnificent line up as usual.
By: grigo : January 16th, 2012-11:28
I expected no more and I am not disappointed. My heart is already set on one particular model. Best regards, George
Okay maybe more than one.
By: grigo : January 20th, 2012-12:04
However the second one would have a steep price I feel. Best regards, George
Truly great stuff
By: Starman : January 16th, 2012-12:21
Quite some time since my last reply, but couldn't miss this one of course. Some really great stuff. Bit surprised by the new RDM. On the pictures it looks exactly the same as the old one, except for the hands. Love the new Master Control, it seems more ri...
Interesting thoughts, Starman.
By: amanico : January 18th, 2012-12:27
Which, coming from you, is not surprising. As for the DS Vintage Chron, this is not a Tribute, but a play on what could be the watch IF we were in the late Fifties... Which is not the same than for a Tribute, where you have less liberty... In my opinion. ...
A great lineup
By: stromer : January 16th, 2012-13:17
At first glance this is really an impressive set of novelties that JLC brings to us here. I am sure this will hold true as soon as Nicholas will bring more details to us. There will certainly much to told about the Spherotourbillon et. al. but what appels...
Very nice line up this year
By: ChristianDK : January 16th, 2012-13:23
Thank you. For bringing us this post Nicolas. It's a very nice line up. Apart from the pieces youve already shown us beforehand my favorites are the triple reverso and MUT RDM and MUT tour billion. I just wish they didn't call it ultra thin, because they ...
Agreed on the terminology, Christian.
By: amanico : January 18th, 2012-12:31
They should not have called the mentioneed pieces Ultra Thin, but Ultra Elegant. Thanks for your feedback, my friend. Best, Nicolas This message has been edited by amanico on 2012-01-18 12:32:08...
New Master control chronograph?
By: hitman : January 19th, 2012-09:33
I was looking at the JLC site. There is another MC Chrono shown under the 2012 models. I have not seen any pics or mention of this one. Is there an updated chronograph already?
Thank You Nico
By: dreamer8 : January 16th, 2012-15:10
I like the Deep Sea chrono, the triple date reverso and can only dream for the skeleton reverso ( that blue border is just amazing.Frames the skeleton very nicely ). Cheers,dreamer
Master Control and RDM
By: Mostel : January 16th, 2012-18:06
are possibly perfection embodied--the RDM is just bigger, but it looks very right, love it in RG! The MC time and date is the most perfect and inarguable watch I have seen in years and years... probably the most perfect time/date watch they could possibly...
I agree
By: willski : January 17th, 2012-01:30
The MC is a winner. Price, design, wearability make it a perfect intro piece into higher-end pieces.
I really like the deep sea chrono.
By: MichaelC : January 16th, 2012-20:02
I have a certain affinity for chronos with only 2 subdials too, so the layout is just right. I have been tempted by the other recent vintage efforts, and this one likely will find me sooner or later. I also find myself drawn to the 1931 Grande Reverso... ...
Lots of exciting prospects here, Vlad!
By: dxboon : January 16th, 2012-23:07
I can't wait to see the triple calendar Reverso, skeleton with blue enamel Reverso, the Deep Sea chrono, and Duometre tourbillon in the metal. Gosh, lots to see! Cheers, Daos
Still on the fence with the MC...
By: Echi : January 17th, 2012-01:02
Definitely needs to be tried out on the wrist before passing judgement. Same with the Deep Sea chrono (having said that, it will obviously sell). The triple date Reverso is a sure winner aesthetically although the 976-sized case isn't friendly to my wrist...
The first Duometre à Spherotourbillon will be available in ...
By: amanico : January 18th, 2012-13:15
February 2012... Yes, you read it correctly ... February 2012! April of thi year will see some other models... Yes, JLC understood that it was not good to let their fans waiting too long between the unveiling and the delivery. Best, Nicolas
Reverso calendar
By: Clavi : January 17th, 2012-01:46
This: Reminds me of that: I wish this new reverso Calendar would have been issued in the more aptly-sized GT case instead of the superlarge size (but I have sort of given hopes of finding any type of complication in the more wearable GT case now)...
+1 (nt)
By: Echi : January 17th, 2012-01:50
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re.
By: robsallnow : January 17th, 2012-12:19
Yes the 976 size is a little big for my liking too
Clavi...see "Reverso...the Living Legend"...
By: watchme : January 18th, 2012-04:31
page 266-267. This was a perpetual calendar with retrograde date prototype that was in a Classique-size, of which the one offered this year is the most like. Frankly, I prefer a solid back for personalization, unless the movement is superbly decorated - o...
Either you read my mind or ...
By: AndrewD : January 20th, 2012-02:21
... you remember this conversation from 2.5 years ago: jlc.watchprosite.com But yes, it was the Cal 976 I was thinking of. Some movements are not meant to be seen. ;-$ Andrew
There was a movement for the Reverso PC... BUT
By: amanico : January 18th, 2012-13:18
Still officially not sure that the Reverso PC existed, in the late thirties... To be discussed, I will of course post something in the weeks to come. Best, Nicolas.
Mercy Hermano
By: Quan : January 17th, 2012-05:23
Love the Master Control, it will be purer if no date. Secondly is the Atmos
Re the Master Control...
By: watchme : January 18th, 2012-18:55
nee "Master Grande Taille"... my hope is that the proportions of the original 1992-2003 version would come through on the new one. I didn't like the wider bezel of the 40mm, and was hoping for a more slanted bezel, which I find more elegant. -Dean
well, well, well
By: OlivierT : January 17th, 2012-07:26
so my friend, you're looking like a devil! yes, great news, huge novelties. but, what's about the so nice stainless steel QP seen last year? no news about this complication. some of us are still waiting for a new version of the master QP...
Thanks
By: mdtddd2007 : January 17th, 2012-08:11
Very nice...
There's some good stuff in there
By: aaronm : January 17th, 2012-14:00
The Master RdM is a nice size bump, brings that model back from the brink! I really like the skeletonized reverso, reminds me of the Reverso Art Deco, though I'd always prefer skeletonizing without engraving (see the recent Piaget), but JLC will never do ...
Is the Hybris...
By: aaronm : January 19th, 2012-06:29
Ever referred to as a duometre in JLC literature?? If it is, I can't remember seeing it... a
There's a few details about it on the JLC website
By: grumio : January 17th, 2012-21:41
It's listed on the JLC site with all SIHH 2012 models, all of which are already shown in this thread except for this model. http://www.jaeger-lecoultre.com/GB/en/luxury-watches/collection/new-2012.html GRANDE REVERSO 1931 Reference: 2783520 White Gold 18 ...
In the same boat..
By: willski : January 18th, 2012-03:17
I'm in the same boat as XGT size cases are unfortunately unwearable for me. That WG Reverso looks stunning can't wait for Nico's pics. Still, for those with slimmer wrists, JLC's showing is really great and deserve a pat on the back for not super sizing t...
Just got time to catch up on the new releases..
By: ocwatching : January 17th, 2012-16:41
I agree with the masses..JLC is following its own and braving a very nice path with their pieces.. looking forward to more on the Duometre à Spherotourbillon and that atmos is just divine... Thank you for the summary and looking forward to more...
My 2 favourite watches - master control and deep sea chrono.
By: ling5hk : January 18th, 2012-03:31
Nicolas, thanks for bringing many beautiful watches to us. To me, the master control is so balance and clean. It is timeless. I like the stainless steel version because the blue second hand blends well with the dial colour. The deep sea chronograph is so ...
Perfection is not on this world, Ling...
By: amanico : January 18th, 2012-13:48
And JLC still has to improve their strap, definitely. But at least there are already some nice improvements on the cases, sizes, volumes, well, in a word, watches. Even if a strap is a true part of the watch. Best, Nicolas.
I totally subscribe to your opinion, Ling.
By: amanico : January 19th, 2012-05:33
But think about it: What is better? A nice watch and a so so strap, or a nice strap on a so so watch? What? A nice strap on a great watch? I hear you. Best, Nicolas
RDM revamp design was phoned in?
By: Velociphile - No longer in the building : January 21st, 2012-08:57
All IMHO of course For me, the Jaeger LeCoultre Réserve de Marche stands as one of the most beautifully balanced watch designs in history. It starts with the chamaeleonic, ‘soleil’ effect finish of the dial. This always creates involuntary glances from ca...
Wow! That is a superb love song for the RDM, Velociphile.
By: amanico : January 21st, 2012-09:09
And I totally suscribe to your words. By thge way, I couldn't choose nor write them better. I also agree on the fact that this is a watch to see in the flesh to fully appreciate it. A watch to feel, rather than simply seeing it on pics. My opinion on the ...
one other minor difference on the RDM
By: dennis_yong : January 26th, 2012-17:32
The "JL" logo now appears while the previous one just had Jaeger LeCoultre under the 12. That said, I heard from the Malaysian boutique that the thickness of the new case is exactly the same as the old one. Would anyone confirm this? For some reason, the ...
The former RDM is 9.3 mm
By: marcelo : January 29th, 2012-06:04
At least it’s the info I got from many web different sources. If the numbers are right, the diameter of the RDM MUT - compared with the former RDM - had increased 5.4%, while the thickness 5.9%. These numbers would also make the thickness/diameter ratio o...
Really interesting, Dennis!
By: marcelo : January 27th, 2012-16:57
Same thickness? Isn't it supposed to be UT? I made a Google search and found out the "regular" RDM is 9.3 mm thick, while the "UT" version would be 9.85 (I got the same info from two different sources).
ok, i decided not to be lazy, and...
By: dennis_yong : January 28th, 2012-17:51
googled it, and found this page: http://ninanet.net/ap/ludwig/jlcmrdm.html the author says 10.1mm height on the case, which is probably about right. but the new naming of nearly all new models with UT is, well......
One other difference
By: gup502 : February 10th, 2012-19:00
The two numeric 9 and 12 are now gone, too. It is no doubt bigger and just as classier as other Master Control but I still like the previous version a bit more.
nic, the economic uncertainty certainly brought sense ...
By: a.ler : January 18th, 2012-19:13
to a brand i used to admire. they've done everything so well this year , in my opinion. better presence doesn't mean "big", especially for a small wristed , like myself. i see balance and well-proportions in the updates for the classic watches. the watche...
Reverso skeleton im Dead :D
By: aldossari_faisal : January 18th, 2012-23:01
Seems that JLC people Werent busy watching THE RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES thus they were more focused on their creation ... lots of nice pieces in there... ill revisit some other time to check them in depth but right now im under the magic of Reverso ...
I really like the Reverso calender
By: docsnov : January 18th, 2012-23:41
and the Duometre. I like the Duometre chronograph as well from the past few years. These are watches I could possibly afford, they are both unique in their own way (Reverso case, various movements for the Duometres), and they just look great. Thanks for t...
The Duometre is in my short list.
By: amanico : January 18th, 2012-23:46
I can understand why you have such a strong feeling for it, my friend. Thanks for your input. Best, Nicolas
Deep Sea
By: jankroyer : January 19th, 2012-02:22
Hi Last year the tribute to Deep Sea was a limited model... Do anyone know if the new Deep Sea chrono is limited too? Have a nice day Jan
back of Reverso
By: robsallnow : January 19th, 2012-12:22
Still no sign of an image of the back of the calender Reverso.....I hope that doesn't mean it's not pretty!!!
re
By: robsallnow : January 19th, 2012-14:01
I was thinking more that JLC have not posted a pic of it in any of their press releases....but if you do have a pic of it I just look forward to seeing it.
Great Overview
By: jml_watches : January 19th, 2012-13:04
Hi Thanks for the overview - definitely some things to think about! RDM - will need to think about it and see it in the flesh as the current such an icon. Though it does strick me that the case does look very close to the the ultra thin moon. Would laso b...
41.5 mm Duometre...
By: jeffreysaul : January 19th, 2012-17:07
I am to understand that new Duometre is only available in a boutique? Is there a boutique in Massachusetts, it's very difficult to find one on the JLC site. Does anyone know the price? Thanks, Jeff
Nicolas, sorry I missed you at SIHH
By: sclamb : January 20th, 2012-03:29
I had dinner with Yves Meylan on the Wednesday evening and I know he texted you to see if you would be around to meet up on the Thursday but sadly you had returned to Paris. It would have been great to see you again after so long. Had a great tour of the ...
Noooo! Don't tell me that!
By: amanico : January 20th, 2012-03:39
I had Yves Meylan on the phone, yesterday, but he didn't tell me that YOU were the mysterious gentleman who wanted to see me there! What a pity! I do wish that we'll have another opportunity to meet, my good friend. Nice choice, by the way! All the best, ...
Indeed, I WAS that man of mystery :-)
By: sclamb : January 20th, 2012-03:49
Nicolas, I was in the private viewing room trying on the Sphero Tourbillon when Yves called you. I thought he had mentioned me by name but I guess not. I hope we can meet again soon too. It would be great to catch up. Perhaps I could come over to Paris on...
I see!
By: amanico : January 20th, 2012-04:07
You were in good hands! We have a strong nest of Londonian friends, Simon. An informal gathering between Paris and London is something easily envisageable. I am so happy to see you back here! Best, Nicolas
Thanks Nicolas - good to be back!!
By: sclamb : January 20th, 2012-05:14
I shall tell you of my past couple of years off the radar when we next meet. Yves did provide some laughter for us at the dinner when he reminded me of the occasion when you strapped your watch to the front of your Audi to take pictures and then you drove...
Aaah, Yves M told you that??? :)
By: amanico : January 20th, 2012-07:30
We'll find the moment and the place, Simon, no worries. I saw Zhara at the SIHH, she may also help us to organize that, I think. But definitely, I count on you and you in for the next gathering, even if informal! Best, my friend. Nicolas. This message has...
Yves was informative after some wine :-)
By: sclamb : January 20th, 2012-07:33
I sat next to Zhara at dinner on Wednesday and at lunch on Thursday. I was sad to hear that Caroline and Marie were no longer with JLC but Zhara was excellent company and I am sure she could help to organise another memorable GTG. To be continued....... K...
Thank you for a great summary Nicolas
By: emcquillan : January 20th, 2012-15:20
Your passion is always appreciated. I must admit this isn't my favourite year from JLC, but maybe that's because the most exciting piece is the Duometre Spherotourbillon and I trust it is a very elite piece and unfortunately not for me. Some nice tangible...
Not the most innovative year, certainly.
By: amanico : January 20th, 2012-22:00
But keep in mind that next year will be the 180th anniversary of the brand, and that last year was quite rich. Some of their watches from the 2012 let a strong impression. Just to help us to wait till next year. As for the Chronometer, I totally agree wit...
Re: SIHH 2012 JLC...
By: FanFrancisco : January 21st, 2012-07:40
... rereading these watches of this year, two models caught my attention most, i.e. Reverso Calendar and Duometre à Spherotourbillon, for others, perhaps they were somehow introduced by press release before SIHH, which makes me less excited! in any case, ...
great models
By: nitediver : January 21st, 2012-14:02
The ATMOS Klimt is to die for. 10 pieces only...and it will not be affordable. But what a beauty... The Reverso Calendar looks great - looking forward to hold it in my hand The RDM is a wonderful piece - the indexes are just classic and give it a bit of a...
back of Reverso
By: robsallnow : January 27th, 2012-11:59
Any sign of a pic of the back of the Reverso calendar yet?
Many thanks
By: robsallnow : January 28th, 2012-11:11
That's not too bad Thanks for the pic...I was a little concerned given JLC's lack of a picture on their website and press releases...but it reminds me of the older display back Reversos...which is good!
I like this Reverso....
By: sclamb : January 28th, 2012-14:15
I have a feeling that this may be my next Reverso. Thanks for the movement picture and looking forward to your deeper review. Regards. Simon
Great summary Nicolas....
By: DivingT : January 28th, 2012-04:16
LOVE the Deepsea Chrono (of course) but actually, that Master Control is really speaking to me!!! I know, its strange - its not a diver, but......I just can't help it!! LOL cheers Tony
thanks [nt]
By: DrFrenchboy : January 29th, 2012-13:50
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Wonderful presentation
By: halkcb : January 30th, 2012-19:14
This post just caught my eye---and great spread of photos of the watches---congragulations and thanks for the presentation. Am taken with the RDM and the reverso calender----this might just be my first reverso---any idea when they will be released and thr...
Duometre à Spherotourbillon (sorry, wrong thread)
By: Starman : November 25th, 2012-13:31
Hi Nicolas, Cannot get enough of these Duometre birds (though I don't even own one myself). The more affordable choice for me was the MC Chrono with black face and now white on black date window and some red details, but I believe they messed it up with a...