The differences between 5204 VS 5951

Jul 30, 2012,06:28 AM
 

Right we've got two Split Second Perpetual Calender Chronographs here: The 5204 (and it's Lemania-based predecessor the 5004) and the 5951.

Can someone explain the difference between these two pieces (aside from the obvious about shape and look etc).

The 5951 is almost twice the  (already very very substantial) price of the 5204 and from what I heard in the Geneva boutique, they've delivered only 10 pieces since it was first released... 
 What's the story then as, theoretically at least, they do the same thing - split seconds chrono and perpetual calender display.

Any ideas/information?


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Sure!

 
 By: Dje : July 30th, 2012-06:47
Hi Murcielago boy, Reference 5951 is based on thinner base calibre, requiring a harder work at producing parts, finshing and assembling them. It is also finished to a higher level, somewhat at the top of what Patek Philippe has done in that area. So some ... 

5951P

 
 By: spawn : July 30th, 2012-08:07
These are the pics......enjoy. ...  

May I ask if the 5951P in the photos...........

 
 By: Topcat30093 : July 30th, 2012-10:52
Is yours? Regards Tony

It is

 
 By: spawn : July 31st, 2012-04:30
mine Tony. Got it from Geneva.

Yours ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : August 2nd, 2012-12:20
even better :-) Congrats, it is an incredible piece. Please feel free to share more pictures, sentimens and thoughts about your beauty. Thanks! Oliver

Thanks

 
 By: spawn : August 3rd, 2012-08:43
I will. Thank you

The differences are in the details (inside) ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : July 30th, 2012-11:22
and both are based on two very different movements (as mentioned by Dje before). Ref. 5204, cal. CHR 29-535 PS Q vs Ref. 5951, cal. CHR 27-525 PS Q The latter is smaller and thinner and the approach is different - VERY limited production, because of VERY ... 

5204 and 5951 do NOT DO the same thing: one is a sschr pp, the other more a chr pp

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : July 30th, 2012-12:52
A very interesting question here! The 5951 uses the caliber first introduced in the 5959. As said very thin and threfore with HORRIBLE tolerances for the watch makers! But aside that it has got some much more interesting features: - a continiously moving ... 

Thanks to both Oliver & Moritz.........

 
 By: Topcat30093 : July 30th, 2012-22:39
For your fine explanation regarding the differences. :) Regards Tony PS Personally, I always marvel at how collectors have so much in-depth knowledge :)

And the 5951 is

 
 By: hewitgar : July 31st, 2012-14:33
Also a mono pusher chronograph as well, another important difference. Gary