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Hi Patekova , thanks for this post that brings out great discussion points. Based on not having seen the 5231J in the metal, my comments here are...
Apr 26, 2019,03:33 AM
at an initial stage based on 5231 photos only.
I like the 5230 case (refreshing for a new reference) but wish that the 5231 would retain the 5230 hands which are attractive in their own rights and which can continue the 5230 lineage.
Having said that, I personally like the scissors hands more on the 5131 because of its vintage, distinct and unusual looks.
Although the Patek logo is consistent with 5230 lineage, it does obstruct part of the enamel dial which is the key to this watch. As a owner of 5131s, I attest to the discrete and subtle nature of the engraving of the Patek logo on the 5131s. The engraving enables a full appreciation of the whole enamel map.
Based on what I know thus far, I call it a tie until I see the 5231 in the metal.
Motif wise, I guess the world time is best with a map. Is it better with fewer continents ? Probably, but from a marketing perspective, less collectors would find it meaningful because their countries would not be on the map of each version. Just my 2 cents.
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Old style...
By: alexxelor : April 25th, 2019-08:19
What happened the designers?
with the new 5231J
By: patrickh : April 25th, 2019-09:05
No one near you can miss the BIG logo: "PATEK PHILIPPE GENEVE". A new style ;-((
5231 in my opinion.
By: BMR : April 25th, 2019-11:47
I have ordered one. I prefer the enamel work on the dial itself, the vintage aesthetic, the size, etc. are all more to my taste.
Lack of Imagination
By: parle73 : April 25th, 2019-13:26
These days, when I see the new releases from Patek, I feel disappointed.. Most of the designs are combinations of past features presented in different sizes, different metals, combinations of fonts and hands. The overall designs lack clarity, aesthetics a...
Everyone is entitled to their opinion
By: Mean Solar Time : April 26th, 2019-14:19
Sorry you don't like Cloisonné World Timers. I'm not sure if you've seen one live or if you've only seen them on a computer monitor, ... but in my opinion it makes a big difference. Remember, ... the art that looks rudimentary on a large monitor screen fi...
A few of my thoughts on this..
By: keks : April 25th, 2019-14:12
I happen to prefer the case of the 513x over the 523x. Generally I not a huge fan of flat bezels and I really like how the 513x wears on my wrist. It is less in-your-face elegant in my opinion. I like to dress down mine with a calf strap and find it becom...
Definitely the 5231...
By: pfang56 : April 25th, 2019-15:44
I actually was looking to get a 5131 to complement my collection but hesitated because I had some misgivings about the engraving of the brand on the bezel. It just seemed a just a slight bit tacky and if anything, given that the bezel will get scratched I...
Hi there...
By: pfang56 : April 25th, 2019-22:01
Good point. I guess after collecting watches and wearing watches I’ve been more picky at the details I still have the eyesight to visualize . I’m sure all of us have been caught staring at our wrists during downtime - and for me and only me, I know a slig...
I know exactly what you mean!
By: Mean Solar Time : April 26th, 2019-04:21
The good thing is that the Cloisonné watch is not really an everyday wear ... so not too many scratches.
Probably not needed ...
By: Mean Solar Time : April 26th, 2019-15:54
... because a cloisonné watch is not an everyday wear, ... but I'm sure the engraving can be fixed to near perfection. I've had a number of pretty significant "dings" on some everyday Patek's ... some of them too deep to simply polish ... but when they've...
As we know the 5230 is available at every AD
By: Patekphilippecollector : April 25th, 2019-19:52
With no waitlist and both metals. In order to use up the scores of spare cases building up in Geneva tbey dug around the warehouse...found a few dials from previous 5131 and did a quick dial replacement to the enamel....instant success!!! The good news i...
Great topic discussing the two references.
By: uaewatchguy : April 25th, 2019-23:22
I may be biased but I prefer the 5131 because of all the reasons you mentioned Case design,size,and I think the patek logo on the dial is too much . Iqbal
The writing is very small
By: Mean Solar Time : April 26th, 2019-14:04
I think sometimes we all forget how minute the cloisonné art on these references really is? Remember, ... the art is on a disc smaller than a dime! In an image on a large computer monitor I can really visualize whatever feature I want to concentrate on .....
Great question my friend.
By: Miles_151 : April 26th, 2019-04:49
And for once in a long time I am actually leaning towards the new model. Will need to see it in the flesh to confirm for sure but on first impressions I prefer the case much prefer the Patek Philippe on the dial instead of bezel I agree a bit of a shame a...