I handled this 5959 two days ago

Mar 27, 2013,13:59 PM
 


in Geneva. What a fantastic movement but the watch is for the wrist size of my wife - not mine.

I would take 5950 at any moment even 5959 has email dial and platinum case. There is something very special about a high complication in a steel case! And we all should admit it: out of traditional materials for watch cases steel is the best. A chronograph is a sporting watch and steel is also the most suitable material for such a watch.

I sat yesterday next to the CEO of Patek on the lunch. I tried to explain Mr. Claude Peny that they should urgently introduce 5170A but somehow I felt that he was not 100% convinced about my arguments...

Best, Kari


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Ref. 5950 - a personal view

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 27th, 2013-10:34
Ref. 5950; Basel 2010 Back in 2010 Patek Philippe introduced a modest watch on the first few - with just some extravagances, e.g. a case in steel, delicate black lacquered engravings in all four corners. Its movement was not new and already presented with...  

"sadly ..."

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 30th, 2013-23:32
Yes, but thanks anyway :-) Oliver

The Patek with the most understatement: too understated for me to reach even :-)

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : March 27th, 2013-13:28
But still: the 5959 would be my choice as the 5959 looks like a cute, little watch to me where this 5950 looks a bit too "simple", imho. Also the engravings ... "Hirschgeweih-artig" ... if you know what I mean :-). This one will have the appeal of size an... 

I handled this 5959 two days ago

 
 By: dr.kol : March 27th, 2013-13:59
in Geneva. What a fantastic movement but the watch is for the wrist size of my wife - not mine. I would take 5950 at any moment even 5959 has email dial and platinum case. There is something very special about a high complication in a steel case! And we a... 

I was also wondering

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : March 27th, 2013-14:12
why Patek did not introduce a limited 5170 in celebration of their first inhouse chrono movement. And as you did suggest: in steel. Good point, Kari. Regarding the 5959: it is big as an collectors item :-). Best Moritz

I'm not interested at all about collector's items!

 
 By: dr.kol : March 27th, 2013-15:14
The only right place for a watch is the wrist. I still hope to see 5170A one day. Next year means some special 175 years anniversary watches and a steel chronograph would be fantastic. Not one of these split second ones so few can afford but a more sensib... 

Being a collector is not a shame, Kari :-)

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : March 28th, 2013-11:48
What I mean by using the term collector is connoisseur: for all others it is simply irrational, not understandable. Best Moritz

A matter of definition.

 
 By: dr.kol : March 28th, 2013-12:08
Always when somebody says "collector", I am thinking about a person who is hunting for rarities and is trying to built up a collection to admire. My acquisitions are based on my taste and I'm trying to get a bunch of watches I love to wear. When I am gett... 

"design matters more"

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-00:11
Moritz, for me as well and therefore I would choose the 5950 instead of the 5959. As a collector with very deep pockets I would go for both, but as a connoisseur I would only go for one - the one that speaks to my heart and fits perfect on my wrist. "Hirs...  

Convinced

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : March 31st, 2013-02:13
Many thanks for the photo shop pictures and yes:with the decorative elements it looks better, much better. Best Moritz

That's a big favorite of mine!

 
 By: Fricks : March 27th, 2013-16:03
if the ultimate grail would be the 5208P, the 5950A along with the 3670A comes right after... Strangely, i would wear on a daily basis the 2 chrono's, but not the 5208P. Thanks for the great post Oliver

Fricks, thanks for your comments.

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-00:17
"Grail" - quite interesting that you like all three watches that much. The 5208 is almost a no go for me, because it is somehow too bold for my taste. But to be honest, I never saw it in the metal ... :-) Oliver

This is one of those Pateks that

 
 By: Mostel : March 27th, 2013-17:23
live up to the Legend. more from DJE

I've come to the conclusion..

 
 By: fernando : March 27th, 2013-18:12
that the only Pateks that I like at this point in time for me are..... the unattainable ones. This may just qualify as one of them. Thanks for your review Oliver. Fernando ...  

Agree Fernando

 
 By: Mostel : March 28th, 2013-19:55
The 'unattainable' Pateks IMO, are the only ones really doing what Patek was once known for. I said in a recent post that I admire the 5107 and 5127 a lot, and that they are true Pateks. But back in the the golden era... it seemed that Patek offered the s... 

Fernando, I get your point ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-00:30
but it is hard to imagine someone produces about 40k watches per year on that level. If PP would produce less watches in general it would be unattainable to get any of them ... :-) But I would love to see a simple three hands watch with that level of atte... 

Oh, Oliver, now you have given me dreams.....

 
 By: Sandgroper : March 27th, 2013-20:56
for a long time but what a beautiful dream. This watch is just sublime and definitely not too small for me, just perfect. Thank you Oliver. Cheers, Francois

Francois, its all about dreams ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-00:32
when we talk about the good life and what keeps us going further. Therefore I did a good job :-) Thanks! Oliver

Point of order for pedantic PuristS

 
 By: MTF : March 27th, 2013-21:00
Oliver, Thanks for the report. I like monopusher chronographs but more importantly, the current Mrs MTF will only wear chronographs that don't look like chronographs. At this price point, the vote must be unanimous to maintain family harmony. Point of ord... 

Well, I've seen two or three 5950 on the second hand market

 
 By: Dje : March 28th, 2013-00:58
Hi Melvyn, Please ask Mrs MTF let me this PP, and I'll let her the Piaget! :-) Best Dje

Melvyn, there is one from ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-08:26
Habring which could solve your "problem" as well :-) Oliver

Thank you, Oliver

 
 By: ChristianDK : March 28th, 2013-00:29
What a great write up. I completely share your taste and sentiments regarding this watch. Best Christian

Christian, thanks for your kind words.

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-08:27
Oliver

I can afford those kind of dreams ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-08:30
without fairy tales. Dreams are for free, aren´t they? :-) Oliver

Thank you.

 
 By: optionc : March 28th, 2013-01:02
I was offered this watch by my AD a couple of years ago... but I simply could not afford to take it on. While I cannot regret my financial situation couldn't bear the burden (that is life), but this is truly a watch for my dreams. At least in my dreams it... 

Sweet dreams ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-08:32
at least we have them :-) Thanks! Oliver

I was with you...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : March 28th, 2013-04:54
when you fell in love. Your posting shows that it was more than a one-night-stand ;-) Besides the obvious (movement greatness) I think what really stand out is the dial. You mentioned already the sculptures of numerals Patek applied. But I more and more c... 

"one-night-stand"

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-08:33
It was a pleasure to share that kind of quality time with you. Magnus, thanks for your kind words! Oliver

Beautiful review dear Oliver

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : March 28th, 2013-05:13
Thank you very much Best Damjan P.S.I still like your previous Avatar more ;)

Damjan, you have the skull ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-08:38
in mind? :-) When I came home from SIHH it was gone and not on my desk anymore. My family promises to me that they don´t know anything about. It seems to be a miracle - a bad one :-( Still miss it! Thanks for your kind words! Oliver

Yes the skull

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : March 31st, 2013-10:26
and accompanying watch ;) The family Omerta? :) Best Damjan

That 5950 is magnificent...and

 
 By: nicacag66 : March 28th, 2013-19:56
the breguet numeral on the dial are superb. Wow. The ultimate.

I agree

 
 By: small-luxury-world : March 31st, 2013-08:39
:-)

Firstly, Oliver..........

 
 By: Topcat30093 : March 31st, 2013-23:23
Thank you for a very interesting read ;) Moritz & Kari thank you for defining me, the word connoisseur suits me to the ground. Unfortunately, I must be a heathen when it comes to this model, though I can off course marvel at the complexity of its movement... 

Thanks a lot for your reply and ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : April 2nd, 2013-08:08
it is more than welcome. Oliver

That movement art print...

 
 By: wisPete : July 7th, 2015-19:15
Dear Oliver, Sorry that I am 2 years late to this great thread. I have become obsessed over the CHR27-525PS, and am very jealous of the art print of the movement =). Is there a way to obtain it? I may have to get it custom made otherwise. Thanks so much! ... 

Art print

 
 By: Mark in Paris : July 8th, 2015-03:07
Hi Peter, To try answering your question, I know that Patek does very nice prints from time to time for press-kits given to clients for instance. I suggest you contact a Salon or an AD, or even the Swiss HQ to see if you can get some of them. Explain your... 

Thank you very much, Mark!

 
 By: wisPete : July 8th, 2015-09:30
I will give this a shot, and report back if I have any luck Best, Peter