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It is certainly true
Jul 07, 2017,04:45 AM
My AD has told me that and the beauty is that I can actually see a watch in the metal instead of trying to imagine it on my wrist while it is wrapped in plastic and in a box!
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Looks like times of sealed and double sealed PP is over
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 7th, 2017-03:38
News or rumor is that after 1st of July PP ordered firmly to all retailers to open brown box and cut plastic when selling watches and not give any more brown cardboard boxes to customers. No more double or single sealed PP! I just took few random shots fr...
This is not a rumor.
By: Pretty Boy : July 7th, 2017-03:48
This is what ADs are obliged to do, i.e. to unwrap any watch when it is handed over to the customer. The problem is that not all ADs comply with these rules, and I guess this will continue.
Maybe but info is that Patek said
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 7th, 2017-03:53
βAll pieces found in a cardboard box or plastic bag after July 1st, 2017 will be view as a fault.β So maybe it will not continue? Cheers D
Absolutely the right decision.
By: keks : July 7th, 2017-03:56
Whether dealers will comply or now time will tell. But it will be very easy to trace down who is not complying and selling sealed pieces.... so question is what the consequences will be for those. Fewer allocations perhaps? Slap on the wrist? Or just a si...
Why?
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 7th, 2017-04:28
If true collectors then plastic is no...if flipper plastic yes
I'm torn on that
By: crown comfort : July 7th, 2017-04:08
on the one hand I feel sorry for every PP that needs to live a life in a plastic bag. on the other hand, I don't like the potential arrogance behind this move.
See your reasoning
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 7th, 2017-04:28
But just don't like plastic
I think it's a good move.
By: nafetS : July 7th, 2017-04:21
It's definitely better, than the decision to put the name and address of the buyer into the papers. This new rule is reglementing the dealers, not the buyers. You could of course argument, that this also has an effect on buyers, but only on those gambling...
It is certainly true
By: rnaden : July 7th, 2017-04:45
My AD has told me that and the beauty is that I can actually see a watch in the metal instead of trying to imagine it on my wrist while it is wrapped in plastic and in a box!
The whole story about "sealed" and "double sealed" is pi...ng me off!
By: dr.kol : July 7th, 2017-05:11
These boxes were not supposed to be any kind of seal - just plain transportation packages. It was speculators and grey dealers who created the myth of "sealed". For me there are unused and used watches. If one is not bling, it's easy to see if the watch i...
Plastic is worhtless
By: watch-er : July 7th, 2017-06:46
A watch in plastic in a box is utterly useless except as to flippers as a poster here said. Shame on Patek ADs for not complying with Patek's long standing rules of delivery. PP has only itself to blame for the flipping of watches sealed and in boxes unop...
Errr..
By: Chimaera : July 7th, 2017-07:02
You know my views on this as a matter of principle. But there is another reason too: anyone taking delivery of something expensive & hand made wrapped in plastic and then in a box with a tiny window HAS MORE INTEREST IN THE BOX THAN THE CONTENTS. How on e...
Easy Answer to the box/plastic problem
By: drphileasfogg : July 7th, 2017-12:23
1-Put a barcode on the box ( possibly extend to the second plastic seal) 2-Upon purchase return the box to Patek headquarter in Geneva (AD is responsible for it) 3- Upon receipt Patek enable the warranty, only done if come with an AD ID tag/ declaration, ...
or the distributors could open the boxes
By: watch-er : July 7th, 2017-14:48
and ditch the junk in NY or where else they are located just sending ADs the watch in the presentation box as the AD is suppose to ship to customers. Why didn't they think of that. A big reason for the shipping boxes is lots of watch can be stored in a re...
Indeed [nt]
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 8th, 2017-05:07
You as I don't have
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 8th, 2017-05:05
much fate in humanity my friend Seriously some truly valid points you made Thanks for joining the discussion Cheers D
All your points are spot on!
By: patekova : July 8th, 2017-09:16
We live in a free market World without borders. It's not going away and there are many benefits overall, including for Patek. The relative ease of selling or trading a watch for whatever reason generally leads to more purchases of Pateks.
What about other brands then?
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 8th, 2017-05:11
Do collectors of other brands just care less than PP collectors? Although I can completely understand your reasoning Cheers D
Had they never
By: watch-er : July 8th, 2017-05:43
let the watches go sealed you would not even know or care about the boxes. A PP created problem. I agree with you, as you have done so ably, a compelling argument can be made to let the sealed watches continue to go out. A further point, also that if the ...
Watches delivered without the transport boxes
By: jon_jon : July 7th, 2017-18:26
I like the transport boxes and the plastic wrapper for protecting the watch when I am not wearing it. It is easy to store them in a bank safety deposit box that way. However I can understand Patek Philippe's concern over the single sealed and double seale...
yes very
By: ch9698 : July 8th, 2017-05:21
it's fare
And now
By: TS1987 : July 9th, 2017-15:08
auction prices for double sealed will increase.
How much is the air from
By: TS1987 : July 10th, 2017-03:39
Plan les Ouates worth? I suspect as much as hen's teeth or unicorn hair?
I tend to think it is good news
By: Mark in Paris : July 9th, 2017-15:57
but no sure of the strong impact in the end for me. Personally, I wouldn't pay a premium for a sealed one and would buy a standard excellent condition version for instance (I know other people might feel otherwise of course). I'm not sure that such carboa...
Agreed Patek deserves nice wooden box
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 10th, 2017-01:19
for each and every reference. We are here to help and support each other no need to thank me...sharing is caring Cheers D
Excellent thread Damian.....
By: watercolors : July 10th, 2017-12:26
I agree with many points and decided that I would not mind my name on a car purchase from a dealership, why it would be different with a luxury watch certificate ? For security reasons as well as warranty purposes if nothing else. I also think a paying cu...
Sealed watches and shipping boxes.
By: whit : July 12th, 2017-05:43
Never in my life could I have imagined so much conversation about this. The watch, itself is seemingly lost in this myriad of controversy. The shipping boxes are a wonderful idea and having the watches sealed is as well, serving their intended purpose to ...