Patek Philippe Celestial 6104G and 5102RP, the celestial (mile)stones!

Jun 30, 2010,14:49 PM
 


It has been some years now since the introduction of the Celestial dial on some Patek Philippe wristwatches.

I have to confess that I’ve never been excessively appealed by these watches. The Star calibre is another subject on the contrary.

Still I’ve realized the extraordinary appeal of a sky map on some serious collectors. This nearly unique feature, nearly specific for Patek Philippe (the Van Cleef is the other one that immediately comes to my mind) has the power to focus the desire of some of the most discerning and satisfied collectors. Why?




Patek Philippe 5102 RP

One aspect that I easily understand is the fascination for the “outer space”. If I had to choose a dream, walking on the moon would come fast. As I’m certainly not alone, if this dream could turn into reality, I’d be worried about traffic jams on the Earth’s satellite.

So to some extent Tintin may be for something in the appeal for the Patek Philippe Celestial models. Jules Verne is a more serious tempter. More recently Star Wars is a probable source of unconscious appeal building. Are you all Celestial lovers potential Jedi Knights?




Patek Philippe 6104G

In fact the notion of porthole is IMO totally present with this watch. Looking at the watch I feel like I’d be travelling in a spaceship and looking at the “window” to admire the “cyberspace”.

Maybe these watches are the most futuristic timepieces ever conceived?

Maybe they just let us look at the natural landscape we don’t have the capacity to see anymore? I’m sure centuries of lovers have admired the stars, and now we’re so much admiring the car lights on the highway…..




The date like a red moon

The date (through a central hand) on the new 6104 is a good feature for an everyday use (while the diamond ring may not be). Still I fear that the watch looses too much of its purity and I’d prefer a “simpler” 5102. But that’s not the question!

The 6104 is to some extent the more visible daughter of the unique piece auctioned last year on the same base. It is also thanks to its diamonds a more feminine option (and also thanks to its date, as my wife loves the date function, while I generally dislike it). I’d love to read women’s opinions about this special piece?




Jewelled 6104 buckle

Rarity is probably another source of interest as we seem to see so many perpetual calendar chronographs these days….

Not that I don’t like them, I’d really love to wear a 5970P on a daily basis, but I truly believe that the Celestial models are really rare, like the enamel worldtime, while the perpetual calendar chronographs are just sought after! When a watch is rare (and beautiful) each opportunity to see one is more extraordinary, more satisfying.

In fact I love to see celestial models, but that’s a 5131G that I’d like to wear!




Purer 5102

Another aspect that I didn’t mention yet is that the 5102 and 6104 also have the unique privilege to be associated with the extreme 5002, the revered Sky Moon Tourbillon. They are associated through the case style and obviously the magical landscape. I have little doubt un-consciously the Celestial wearers can feel that they wear the Sky Moon Tourbillon as much as they can feel that they’re getting closer to the moon.




A window to the sky

The last aspect that I see is that there’s some poetry in a complicated watch with no use and so little “tool” interaction with the wearer. You can’t change it, start it, use it, stop it. You can’t ask it to remind you of the reality of our world. You can just (just!) hope it to let you dream!




More of a daily wear

Have you ever thought of owning this piece? Do you want to share your motivations, if you’ve realized some?

Cheers

Dje



This message has been edited by Dje on 2010-06-30 14:50:15 This message has been edited by Dje on 2010-07-04 13:11:36


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In fact ...

 
 By: bimbeano : June 30th, 2010-15:39
.. the 5102 could be the watch if i had to choose one and only one watch ... unfortunately i don't have the budget for it unless i sell my house (and buy a nice Lambo with the rest of the money ..) . Reading your poëtic post enlightens my brain .. my drea... 

Thanks Filip

 
 By: Dje : July 4th, 2010-12:59
Hi, We won't share the travel, but we can share the dream! Thank you for your words. Cheers Dje

CELESTIAL

 
 By: la montre : June 30th, 2010-18:13
As the owner of the 5102G & 5102PR I find the CELESTIAL, captures my visual sense, of coarse while considering the quality & substance of the piece. As with most we look at our watches to give an indication of the time, which can be displayed is many diff... 

Thank you for sharing your owner's thoughts!

 
 By: Dje : July 4th, 2010-13:02
Hi, Thank you for your thoughts. Please don't hesitate to share some pics. Cheers Dje

I'm one of those crazy guys about the Celestial.

 
 By: amanico : June 30th, 2010-22:21
The Celestial is, with the Minute Repeater, a pure piece of Poetry. Useless? It has been made to know the exact positiion of the stars...Some would think it is useful, the vast majority would see it as an useless and expensive toy, I look at it as a pure ... 

Thank you Nicolas

 
 By: Dje : July 4th, 2010-13:04
Hi, I know you truly love this watch and hope you'll get one someday. I'm sure this is one of these once in the lifetime pieces. Cheers Dje

I like the Celestial...

 
 By: patrick_y : June 30th, 2010-22:41
I like the 5102PR Celestial quite a bit. And I do like it to the point where I would be pleased to one day own one. However, it is not in the short list of Patek Philippe's I would like to own. The 5110P, a very simple watch is a watch that I am more keen... 

formal watch and Celestial 5102

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : July 1st, 2010-11:21
The Celestial is truely and exceptional watch, a unique watch. My choice would be the 5102, as I like YG for it's various moods, depending on the light. YG creates a very particular shine as well as a dull glance that makes the material look like as if it... 

Well

 
 By: Dje : July 4th, 2010-13:05
Hi, With this watch the night can come by day! Cheers Dje

wow !!!

 
 By: IAD : June 30th, 2010-23:31
Thanks DJE for the way you have written about this beautiful piece I did purchase the 5102PR and have been wearing it regularly for over 6months and I LOVE it. its a piece that is so mesmerizing and appealing.... I did check out the 6104 in Basel this yea...  

Thanks Jerome for your insight...............

 
 By: Topcat30093 : July 1st, 2010-11:50
Into these two very rare timepieces. Unfortuntately (and this goes against the grain of this thread) but I am not a fan of either piece. Which is just as well as the chances of me ever being able to afford one of these pieces, is the same as me landing on... 

My pleasure

 
 By: Dje : July 4th, 2010-13:07
Hi, Thank you for sharing your pics. It's really an awesome watch. Cheers Dje

i'm thinking of owning a patek

 
 By: Chew82 : September 14th, 2010-05:38
how much does this watch cost~??? may i know~?? is it a new collection??? Thanks ishan~~ really appreciate your pictures, it's stunning on your hands~!!!

fantastic!

 
 By: ocwatching : July 1st, 2010-12:55
I like the porthole idea...another way to appreciate these beautiful pieces... great writeup Dje!

You're welcome! nt

 
 By: Dje : July 4th, 2010-13:09
nt

has always been a dream

 
 By: lutz : July 2nd, 2010-00:08
the classic 5102 is just so poetic,As I was fascinated by astronomy already as a child it would be my dream watch,unfortunately not affordable. 6104 is a disaster iMO. Lutz

An amazing duo.

 
 By: foversta : July 3rd, 2010-13:34
Thanks Jérôme for your article. Fr.Xavier...  

Did anybody notice...?

 
 By: acnyc : July 9th, 2010-21:15
On the jewelled version both the hands have been updated (a darker gray than the much more contrasting white of the non-jewelled versions) and the size of the yellow star markers has been enlarged? This gives the face of the jewelled version a much "dense... 

No idea! nt

 
 By: Dje : July 12th, 2010-06:23
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