There is no uniform definition at all for a grand complications

Mar 29, 2015,06:48 AM
 

It is, as Nicolas is saying, a marketing tool to call a watch a "grand complications".

To give you an answer to your question: the movement of the 5959 is much, much more complicate to produce than the latest chrono split second.

That Patek has not used it for any other watch is showing that it is a purpose built movement where the sole purpose was to be slim!

I have to look / read again in literature to tell you more about the differences in detail but what I can recall is that the movement is made from German, assembled twice and is the slimmest split second chrono to this day.

By the way: a slim, reliable and accurate running movement, regardless any other function is still the biggest challenge in traditional watchmaking.

The new split second movement has got a friction reducing isolator mechanism that the 5959's is lacking.

As I mentioned there are more details but I can not have not available at the moment to tell you.


Moritz


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The new 5370P is not accounted for as a

 
 By: Hiëronymus : March 29th, 2015-04:03
Grand Complication and that is interessting since the caliber CHR 29-535 PS is a split-seconds chronograph. What makes the CHR 27-525 PS that is in the 5959 so much more "Grand" besides the small size? Or better, what makes the CHR 29-535 PS less?

It is a marketting thing. A split seconds cannot be, if not accompanied by...

 
 By: amanico : March 29th, 2015-04:57
Two other complication, a Grande Complication. Best, Nicolas

According Patek

 
 By: dom007 : March 29th, 2015-06:34
Caliber CHR 27- 525 PS: the world’s thinnest rattrapante movement One of the salient features of the new Patek Philippe split-seconds chronograph is the case, which is thinner than that of many ordinary three-hand watches. This is due to the exquisite CHR... 

There is no uniform definition at all for a grand complications

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : March 29th, 2015-06:48
It is, as Nicolas is saying, a marketing tool to call a watch a "grand complications". To give you an answer to your question: the movement of the 5959 is much, much more complicate to produce than the latest chrono split second. That Patek has not used i... 

Thus it a complicated complication

 
 By: Hiëronymus : March 29th, 2015-08:16
But nevertheless an interesting movement. Thanks for sharing your knowlegde about these calibers.

Indeed, and I would say it is well deserved

 
 By: Mark in Paris : April 26th, 2015-07:47
As our fellow purists said earlier, there is not official definition to what is Grande Complication. And I would say that Patek has quite a pragmatic approach in that field. There are simple watches, complicated one (with a little more functions) and the ... 

The 5959's CHR 27-525 PS caliber was indeed the slimmest Split-scond Chronograph movement

 
 By: Mark in Paris : April 26th, 2015-07:38
when it was launched, indeed Moritz. But I would say that when being that slimm, the most important is then to manage to keep it accurate and reliable. What Patek's caliber has shown. Can I correct something Moritz, it seems to me the 5959's movement is e... 

About the isolator

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : April 27th, 2015-02:37
Hi Mark, I need to find the article about the CHR 27-525 to give a definite answer. Best Moritz

There is an isolator

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : April 29th, 2015-07:28
Hi Mark, I had a look at the movement again and it is equiped with an isolator. Thanks for correcting. Best Moritz

Thanks for the confirmation Moritz

 
 By: Mark in Paris : April 29th, 2015-08:07
I also had to check as Patek has so many different movements, especially these last years with the new Chronograph calibers. Cheers, Mark