Welcome here Hirota-san and thank you for your interesting explanations! nt

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Why PP annual calendar is good & beauty of PP case/ dial + some novelties pics

 
 By: KIH : October 2nd, 2011-01:55
I attended a seminar sponsored by Patek Philippe Japan and Chronos Japan at The Hour Glass Ginza where the well known watch journalist of Japan, Mr. Hirota, gave the audience some enlightenment of how PP's annual calendars are different and thus better in...  

Hi ken, great write up and report

 
 By: Mineral : October 2nd, 2011-06:43
Thank you for sharing. No doubt patek has many strengths in the watch making, that's why we love them so much. Cheers

Thanks for sharing Ken.

 
 By: fernando : October 2nd, 2011-07:08
A nice reminder about Pateks legendary annual calenders. cheers fernando

Great write up

 
 By: Zhege : October 2nd, 2011-07:28
and thanks for going through the mechanics of the annual calendar mechanism. Truly there are many reasons to love our PPs, both inside and out

You can't beat German efficiency ...

 
 By: COUNT DE MONET : October 2nd, 2011-11:09
as Lange has shown on this subject again ;-) ! But certainly, a true annual calendar from Patek is a must have in any serious collection. Really lovely, lovely watches! In your shown list: the WG 5396 for me, please. Many thanks for a great post. Regards ... 

Thanks a lot for your report Ken

 
 By: foversta : October 2nd, 2011-12:39
It was an interesting presentation by Patek. This complication was really "popularized" by Patek and we are able to find it now in several brands like Lange or Zenith, even Omega. A sort of true speciality coming from Patek. Amongst the Annual Calendars, ...  

Gr8 report Ken ...

 
 By: tumahuk : October 4th, 2011-21:31
Love the new Ladies WT. Looks amazing on wrist shot.

Nice report - on the 5146...

 
 By: Nomer : October 2nd, 2011-13:38
I think the metal bracelet on the 5146 makes all the difference - a real beauty. I only wish Patek allowed this as an option on more models. Thanks for the great report.

Thank you for a balanced report.

 
 By: jimjenkins : October 3rd, 2011-21:17
I really appreciate this kind of balanced report, discussing all the issues -good and not so good. It does not read read like a Patek Love Fest. Perhaps someday we will have a thread on discussing what we dont like about Pateks - i.e. constructive critici... 

Thanks for the report Ken. [nt]

 
 By: wso : October 3rd, 2011-21:51
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Thank you Ken-san!

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 4th, 2011-08:23
I try to add some additional information with my poor English. I hope you’ll understand and enjoy. Though I’m not a Patek admire and sometimes critical to their productions (have written in Chronos Japan), still Patek makes excellent watches a... 

great report!

 
 By: playtime : October 4th, 2011-09:30
it's those seemingly minor details--which your report brings to the fore--that distinguish one brand from the other. thanks for calling attn to those details--helps me appreciate PP. Jason

Thanks ken for your well balanced report.......

 
 By: Topcat30093 : October 4th, 2011-12:03
As you may remember the AC is one of my favourite complications, as it fit fits most day to day requirements.

Instead of 'paint' on dials, could it be another process?

 
 By: MTF : October 4th, 2011-13:10
KIH, Thanks for the report. Regarding the thin-ness of the 'paint' on the dials, could they be electroplating with certain salt solutions? That would achieve as 'thin' a coating or many different hues as you like, according to the current / exposure time ... 

That might be it, MTF... [nt]

 
 By: KIH : October 4th, 2011-14:10
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Thomas-san, thank you for your question. Yes electro plating.

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 4th, 2011-19:21
I'll describe later... HIROTA This message has been edited by KIH on 2011-10-04 21:11:37

Hirota-san, I am not......

 
 By: MTF : October 4th, 2011-21:10
Hirota-san, I appreciate your explanations and await further knowledge. Unfortunately, I am not the famous Dr Thomas Mao But we may have met before, when I was a 'salaryman' in Tokyo: 2000 - 2001 and 2004 - 2006. Regards, MTF This message has been edited ...  

very sorry.. confused...

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 4th, 2011-21:15
MTF-san, sorry for that. And thank you for your great article on Chronos Japan. HIROTA

MTF-san, try to explain...

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 4th, 2011-23:06
Again, I am very sorry MTF-san. I did not give detailed explanation in that seminar and I apologize to confuse you all. Now I try to explain about electro plating and some additional process in dial making… I hope do it well…. Now many dial have same maki... 

Supplement

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 4th, 2011-23:28
Covering lacquer has been thought to be better to have flatter surface. But Patek try to give relatively rough surface (looks sand blasted) on covering lacquer. The dial seems glossy if you see it squarely. But from an angle, you will notice that the surf... 

Hirota-san, I think your English is good enough

 
 By: KIH : October 5th, 2011-22:32
... and your explanation makes sense to me. Thank you! Ken

Very clear technical description

 
 By: MTF : October 6th, 2011-05:41
Hirota-san, Arigatou-gozaimashita. The detailed description is very useful for me to understand 'subtle nuances'. As Hokugo-san said, your English is very good and certainly many quanta ahead of my Japanese! Shitsurei-shimasu, MTF

Thank You Ken!

 
 By: patrick_y : October 4th, 2011-15:51
Thank you Ken for this very nice report! Especially appreciated the detail in the mechanics of the Annual Calendar movement!

Very good presentation by Chronos and Hirota-san, thks Ken for the report

 
 By: Hororgasm : October 6th, 2011-09:21
Even layman like me can appreciate. but I believe that AP and VC and Breguet also use forged casing btw, in most of their range. Please correct me if I am wrong. Best, Horo

Yes, Horo-san, you're right.

 
 By: HIROTA, Masayuki : October 6th, 2011-12:08
I'll try to explain the difarences later. Please wait for a while... HIROTA

Looking forward to your explanation.....

 
 By: Hororgasm : October 7th, 2011-05:31
Best, Horo