Basel 2009: New Patek Philippe watches!

Mar 25, 2009,04:59 AM
 

Here comes the time when we can discover the new Patek Philippe watches for 2009!

 

We've heard many suppositions about a 5970P, or about a new in-house manual wind chronograph. Apparently we'll have to wait a little more! smile

Added note from Dje: the 5970P is now pictured on the Patek Philippe website with its black dial!

 

On the contrary I would not be surprised if Patek Philippe was to present at the show a watch that is not included in the press information we've received! Let's hope for some surprises!

 

We can now have a look at what is already offered. In fact I don't think any of these watches were waited by the market, or at least by the collectors.

 



A promising crown

 

The first model and the only new men's reference is the new Calatrava with an officer's case back, the Patek Philippe 5153J, successor of the 5053 which production was stopped a few years back. It is for now only offered in yellow gold. I hope to see a white gold version next year! A white gold version could have been my favourite Calatrava.

 



Patek Philippe 5153J

 

The new 5153J is 38mm large, 2.4mm more than the 5053. The overall height is 10.97mm.

 

The silvery opaline dial features a hand-guilloche sunburst pattern in the center, reminding the dial center of the 5159!

 



The new Officer Calatrava

 

The 5153 is powered by a calibre 324 SC. I imagine that opening the perfectly adjusted hinged back to discover a view to the beautifully finished calibre and its 21 carat gold rotor must be a very pleasing experience.

 



A textured dial

 

This first new model is just one of the new offerings. The rest of the men's new models consists in a trilogy of pink gold watches, three iconic watches for the first time offered in pink gold!

 

Pink gold is reminiscent of the Art Deco era that is nicely brought back by two of the three watches.

 



La vie en rose for the Patek Philippe 5960R

 

Three years after the launch of the 5960P, this efficient and modern automatic chronograph is now available in a new colour.

 



Pink and grey

 

The 5960R is mechanically unchanged from the 5960P. It adds only a nostalgic and more luxurious touch to the sportier and more casual look of the platinum version.

 



A now established reference

 

This watch is obviously going to be the entry level chronograph choice in the Patek Philippe range and a piece of choice, as we have no idea of the evolution of the rest of the chronograph offerings. Let me confess that I'm not totally convinced yet by the graphic definition of this version, while I'm a great fan of the 5960P.

 

I still have no doubt that this watch is going to encounter a great success.

 



Inversed colours

 

The 5101P was launched in 2003, three years after the first ten days Patek Philippe watch (the much revered 5100 celebrating the year 2000).

 

The new version is a pink gold twin sister of the platinum tourbillon. The dial shows two shades of grey and pink gold applied Breguet numerals.

 



Patek Philippe 5101R

 

This magnificent watch is fitted with the untouched  tourbillon calibre 28-20/222, chronometer tested and as already said providing a power reserve of no less than 10 days (and AFAIK beaten only by the 15 days of power reserve of the Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Minute Repeater, or by other watches that are not wound through the crown).

 



A very appealing dial

 

I've personally always found the 5101 to be a fantastic dream watch as it is so nicely understated with its tourbillon shown only on the back, its Gondolo case and subtle dial, its Art deco overall style and superb technical performance. I'm glad to see it's now offered in a second choice of colour and hope to see in the range for long years to come.

 



The possible best back view of the Patek Philippe range

 

Obviously the 5101R will remain a dream watch for many of us (and unfortunately specially me). So I may finish the presentation of this trio of pink gold watches with the most affordable offering, that is for me a very tempting new favourite in the current "reasonable" range.

 

The 5098 Gondolo, launched two years ago in platinum, is now offered in the dual colour of pink gold case and grey dial. The cambered 18 carat gold dial is silvered and hand guilloched on its center and outer zones and receives a brown guilt hour scale with brown painted Breguet numerals.

 



The tasty Gondolo

 

The work done on the dial is once again magnificent and echoes perfectly the rounded tonneau case and the curved glass.

 



Patek Philippe 5098R

 

The warm harmony of colours will remind us the warm south American origin of the Patek Philippe Gondolo family of watches. The relationship between Patek Philippe and its Rio de Janeiro retailer Gondolo & Labouriau began in 1872. From 1902 Patek Philippe produced a specific collection of watches for the Brazilian retailer, named Chronometro Gondolo. The first Chronometro Gondolo wrist watches appeared around 1910 and this partnership lasted till 1927.

 



Still the superb 5098 dial

 

The 5098P was IMO the most beautiful simple watch in the current collection. I yet have to handle the pink gold version but I'm very happy to see this reference appear in a more accessible colour.  The 25-21 REC calibre, derived from the 215, is still there with its attractive and old style bridge lay out.  

 



The tempting 25-21 REC

 

There's in fact a fourth offering in this pink gold range of new models. It is an ultra thin ladies' Calatrava reference 4897R with a calibre 215. I unfortunately have no pics of this watch so far.

 

There are also other ladies options with the 7010 and 7011. These white or rose gold Nautilus watches offer either a satin-finished or diamond-set bezel as well as charcoal grey or white dials. The 60 meters water resistant watches are equipped with a Patek Philippe quartz calibre E23 SC with central second and a date.

 



Patek Philippe 7010 and 7011

 

The 7010 has the diamonds bezel and the 7011 incorporates the satin-finished bezel.

 



Patek Philippe 7010

 

I hope you've found some new watches of desire in these new offerings. I will see these watches later in April and will come back with lots of pictures. I'm sure some of us will also see them before me and will bring us their pics

 

Dje

 


 

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Well, mixed feelings

 
 By: amanico : March 25th, 2009-07:02
No real new watches, here, but more an evolution of already exisiting watches. The " new " ten days is, to me, less appealing than the legendary 5100 with its special horns on each side of the case. The " new " WT in white metal is really nice, with a sup... 

looks like rose gold is the metal of the moment....

 
 By: sadris : March 25th, 2009-07:20
and the new 5960 is absolutely beautiful, stunning...i have decided to sell my 5980 and buy this!! i think overall the new range of watches appear more sexier...i think Patek are right when they have mentioned Romantic.... R's Sid

Totally agree with you Sid...

 
 By: roman : March 25th, 2009-07:57
I really like the look of the 5960R, and am even fond of the 5098R. I think my wife really likes the return of the Nautilus for ladies, as a sports watch. She was never a huge fan of the 24's.

Nicolas, Looks like RG is the metal of the moment :)

 
 By: kkhazen : March 25th, 2009-09:41
... but they did a something really nice for white metal lovers : 5130 et 5970 Honestly, were u waiting for a new model? Karim

Yep, an in house manual Wind Chrono, Karim.

 
 By: amanico : March 25th, 2009-11:53
And as for the 5130 in WG, the problem is still the same than with the YG...The engraved PP and Geneva on the bezel... Best, Nicolas

Me agrees with you Nicolas.

 
 By: =RWK= : March 25th, 2009-17:29
I feel a hint of Lange in the dial of the first piece post too. Cheers, -- Richard.

what's really new

 
 By: eric.vonschonberg : March 26th, 2009-22:53
I agree. Mainly this year it seems to be all about introducing the same watches as before in different metals. This makes sense when the economy is down, since it requires little investment for Patek to change the case metal. Eric von Schonberg

Agreed Nicolas

 
 By: Dje : March 28th, 2009-02:29

Thanks, Jerome...

 
 By: little501 : March 25th, 2009-08:11
It sounds that we shall adapt the pink metal!...

Agree

 
 By: Hamster07 : March 25th, 2009-09:52
Are they going to launch a 5980R next year? Or 5102R?

RE: "A 5980R would be surprising, but a 5102R why not! "

 
 By: WatchFan1 : March 28th, 2009-12:51
considering they came out this year with RG Aquanaut and 5960R...also they already make 5712R......why not 5980R ?? I'd say its very possible...we will see.

Hmmmm

 
 By: Mostel : March 25th, 2009-09:24
IMHO, the dullest offerings in years... the 5970P is the star, but I'm not moved by it... I think the 5970G will be the eternal favorite. I've never really loved black dial dress watches... the hard contrast of the white windows and white print.... not fo... 

The year of pink.

 
 By: KCLQMULKU : March 25th, 2009-11:15
The new calatrava does look appealing, with a great new style for the 5960. But I have to agree that all these new models are simply variants of previous classics. A very insightful report Jerome nonetheless. Many thanks as always!

wish finally granted

 
 By: d-star : March 23rd, 2011-20:05
looks very nice.

Thanks Jerome. Much appreciated.

 
 By: watch-guy.com : March 25th, 2009-15:54
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Thanks! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 28th, 2009-02:38

Which is the real 5101

 
 By: aaronm : March 25th, 2009-16:16
I notice 3 pictures of the dial-side of the new 5101R, 2 have a serial number in the sub-second dial, one doesn't. I'm assuming the one without is a rendering, and they didn't bother rendering a bogus SN, or is it the other way around? A

Thank you Jerome for your report.........

 
 By: Topcat30093 : March 25th, 2009-17:04
My choice has to be the 5970P & 5074P

Thanks for the report Dje!

 
 By: DRMW : March 25th, 2009-17:09
The 5960R is my favorite. Look forward to your live pics in April! -MW

Total disappointment!!!!!

 
 By: LarryFRCGP : March 25th, 2009-17:17
I call this a window-redressing. Getting same references in different metals and colours. Tuck Tuck. So no new calibers? Is Patek afraid of the economic meltdown? C'mon, show us the new in-house manula wound chrono! Larry

I thought the same thing Larry

 
 By: Mostel : March 25th, 2009-19:04
Patek, perhaps, is wary of launching a fabulous innovative groundbreaking (uh, for Patek anyway) timepiece at this point in the economic history of mankind... save it for next year?? But who knows.

Not surprised at all.

 
 By: ling5hk : March 25th, 2009-17:46
PP is not immune to ecomony crisis. For the brand, it is a wise move to incur mnimal cost by merely changing the metal and the dial in their "new" range. Some will still say wow but not me. Regards Ling

not surprised

 
 By: porter505 : March 25th, 2009-18:49
cost down in R&D , stay calm and be ready for crisis

The 5153J 38mm is the perfect gift for my daughter

 
 By: bernard cheong : March 25th, 2009-21:04
I have been waiting for a watch like this for my 19 yr old girl. Round. 38 to 38.5mm. My daughter is slim and actually thin. Officer's case with a half hunter back. And for an "official" father's gift to her for making it to my "dream" medical school. She... 

Congratulations to your daughter Bernard

 
 By: Dje : March 28th, 2009-06:26
Hi Bernard, I see a proud daddy there! Congratulations for the great work! Cheers Dje ps: a 5153 is deserved indeed!

I trust the medical doctors here to look after her with your wisdom of timee

 
 By: bernard cheong : March 28th, 2009-17:23
The people here, and this includes those who don't post are like a large family or community of family friends at the least. There are an incredible number of doctors here. I am sure, that as she begins her new life in London, she will come across the wid... 

UK Med School

 
 By: VPREGULATOR : March 29th, 2009-18:51

Thanks much for sharing...

 
 By: Rob : March 25th, 2009-22:33
as noted by the others, it does seem that RG is the color of the moment. I wonder if this has to do with having the same complication in a lower price point to accommodate the economic slowdown as the sole reason for such a move? Or is Patek once again at... 

Thanks for all the info.

 
 By: roger1 : March 25th, 2009-23:18
I wonder were the 5960R will fit in in terms of pricing. Perhaps the reason increased the price for the 5960P so drastically was so that they could wedge this one just under it, but still above the 5980

Thanks, Jerome

 
 By: masterspiece : March 25th, 2009-23:52
for the post. Agree with Nicolas, for the most part, nothing new, just revamped. Don't care for the 5960R. Seems as if PP was unsure on how much lighter to make the dial. Love the dark gray on platinum. Perhaps this one should've had a cream dial that wou... 

You're welcome! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 28th, 2009-06:32

Fantastic collection!

 
 By: Davo : March 26th, 2009-01:42
I love the new look 5960P! Just stunning...

Thank you Jerome....

 
 By: CL : March 26th, 2009-07:05
for sharing the info My overall feeling of the collection is a bit of a disappointment. The one I like is 5101R. 5970P is very predictable and , honestly, not that nice but ,obviously more rare. But , selfishly, I know I'm happy I won't need to swap my 59... 

I'm not tempted byt he 5970P either

 
 By: Dje : March 28th, 2009-06:36
Hi, That won't change anything anyway! A grey dialed 5970P would have been more dangerous! Cheers Dje

Strangely, not that I can afford anyway in this economy.......

 
 By: CL : March 28th, 2009-07:09
it feels a bit of an aching pain knowing that this is it for 5970......ending with a disappointing black dial 5970P that try to look modern with a white chrono hand (yucks). Imho, it works better with 5971P, looks classy. When I know that the Blue dial 59... 

I'm more and more lurking at the 5970J!

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2009-05:07
Hi, At least on pictures I'm close to finding it more beautiful than the R. I keep an excellent impression from the watch on my wrist last year! Cheers Dje

5970P, personal thoughts...

 
 By: arolex : March 29th, 2009-13:34
...  

Live impression from Basel

 
 By: tempus : March 26th, 2009-11:41
Back from the basel fair where I saw many nice watches. But believe me, if you see the new 5970P live...it's a mindblowing beauty!!! Lucky who will call this masterpiece his own

Some quick takeaways...

 
 By: nothing but time : March 26th, 2009-17:03
I too am a bit disapointed that no all-new chrono references were launched (nothing to stand in place of the non pt 5070), but I thought it was good of them to launch a Calatrava reference with styling cues of the much more expensive 5159. I was hoping th... 

Interesting comments

 
 By: Dje : March 28th, 2009-06:42
Hi, Congratulations on getting a 5970P! You're possibly the first in that case! Any idea about when it could arrive? I know PP is generally fast to begin deliveries after the show. Your comments about the PP market are interesting. I have no clue if Asia ... 

Thanks!

 
 By: nothing but time : March 28th, 2009-08:25

thanks Dje

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : March 27th, 2009-13:52
Great pics and report. the 5960R is my favorite. And the grail is the 5101R. I saw the 5101P months ago but it didn't speak to me. The dial was not my cup of tea. But the 5101 really is gorgeous

nice watches,but...

 
 By: lobo : March 27th, 2009-21:46
It seems like patek philippe is just doing some tweaking to their current inventory. There seems to be no breakthrough design in this year's collection. Furthermore, it seems like ther'e cutting costs IMHO. Why would i say something like that? well, Calar... 

Let me try to answer!

 
 By: Dje : March 28th, 2009-06:59
Hi, I understand that the new offerings can let you thirsty, but they're not bad at all! By the way, please let me try to answer: Calatrava: I hope you've realized the 5159 calibre (5.25mm) is thicker than the 5153 calibre (3,3mm), so the case can't be th... 

Well modified year and makes sense

 
 By: parunach : March 29th, 2009-15:20
I understand the thinking in Patek. While their watches are beautiful, the company was similar to wall street stock in assuming that the prices will keep going up. The worst was the 5098P. I talked to a Patek AD and he said that he does not expect to sell...