Bill
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I can say in general
Apr 20, 2015,23:07 PM
The money you would spend to restore the car to its original like new conditions would be much more than any buyer would pay.
But I know you are all about the pleasure and like watches these are not investments but objects to cherish and enjoy.
Bill
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Is Forbes right?
By: amanico : April 20th, 2015-03:53
They give some advices on cars, furnitures, wines and... watches. Look at this one: The two " stars " are the Volvo P 1800 and the Patek 175Th Anniversary, especially the Chronograph. I have some doubts when I read that the P 1800 will soon reach 100 000 ...
Well i think patek watches hold there value.
By: geross : April 20th, 2015-04:34
But the price of pleasure wearing a patek & owning one is most often priceless. Whether complicated or simple its great to own. Image wise it tells a lot about the owner. That he is lover of fine things , toys etc. my opinion. Best! Geross
mmmh, I would not support his opinion personally
By: Mark in Paris : April 20th, 2015-06:43
What can make someone pick this one vs another ? There are many references which would perfectly answer to the question of THE watch to buy. I guess it was a fun exercize for his article and it was quite an easy choice to make a selection out of the 175th...
May be right about the Patek but most likely very wrong on the Volvo
By: KMII : April 20th, 2015-07:36
As much as I like the P1800, especially in the 3 door wagon ES guise, they are sadly way too common and not nearly exotic enough to get close to the price envisaged. Even though they are amongst the most collectable Volvos, they have relatively humdrum un...
Finding one in very good shape makes the rarity, though.
By: amanico : April 20th, 2015-07:41
Ten years ago, I was tempted to jum on one, when they were around 5 K Euros. I got one two years and a half ago, and paid it much more. Nowadays, they go for an even higher price. But to say that they will soon reach 100 000 USD, well, there is still a wo...
Yes the article is correct
By: emcquillan : April 20th, 2015-08:27
I have to be more patient and stop drinking my 2005 Bordeaux! I don't know about the rest though :)
Not sure about that car!!!
By: Miranda : April 20th, 2015-13:34
lol kidding of course Looks like you have a winning combo 5110 and 1800 Both P Ofcourse! Best Miranda
Interesting advice
By: Bill : April 20th, 2015-20:05
On the price of a P1800. If he is talking about a fully restored car disassembled down to the frame and rebuilt ground up restoration I a sure 100k is reasonable as the restoration would most like cost 50k. Great car. Bill
I can say in general
By: Bill : April 20th, 2015-23:07
The money you would spend to restore the car to its original like new conditions would be much more than any buyer would pay. But I know you are all about the pleasure and like watches these are not investments but objects to cherish and enjoy. Bill
And there you have it, in a nutshell
By: KMII : April 20th, 2015-23:25
I think you described the situation very well - as long as there is little potential for the resale value of an oldtimer to more or less compensate for the investment lavished on it, the market will remain cautious. And the main elements that drive values...
The very same...
By: KMII : April 21st, 2015-02:32
Yes, the brick. In a European context in the rarest combination, namely black, not yellow, and a sedan, not an estate - I suppose the US would possibly have other combinations. One of only 2500 in total - in this combo it was the only one in the country, ...
Yes and No... Okay, I'll play "Pretend Doctor"
By: patrick_y : April 23rd, 2015-12:12
PuristSPro is not about money and we try to talk about price as little as possible as it detracts from the collector's experience. On the other hand, FORBES is all about money money money. So I approach this with a balance of collector mentality and yet a...
I was quite amused by the predictions especially on the P 1800.
By: amanico : April 24th, 2015-23:21
Reaching the 100, 000 USD soon is not very realistic. Now, if we are speaking about quite long term, maybe 10 years, then... The car is quite rare. I see much more vintage Porsches than P 1800s on the road and in the Streets, and most of them are not in g...
You're right on the P1800. Of course I default to you on that one...
By: patrick_y : April 26th, 2015-11:54
Of course I default to your expertise with the P1800. But don't be surprised if it goes up in value greater and sooner than you thought. Look at vintage air cooled Porsches, many 993s doubled in the past 3 years in the United States and have become very v...
Nix the P1800
By: Donedwarddillon : April 26th, 2015-18:09
I actually owned a P1800 station wagon. Very cool looking car but it was a nightmare keeping it running. Finally sold it to a guy who loves tinkering with old Volvos. Sorry Forbes, think you got this one wrong.
You first have to be sure to have a good mechanician.
By: amanico : April 26th, 2015-23:25
It is pretty reliable, though. Dépends on the condition. Mine didn't drive a lot, before I got it... The first 10 K Kilometers, I tested the different issues. Since then at the exception of the clutch which was not changed for 20 years ( ! ), no issues, j...