Patek Philippe 5950A and 5951P, the ultimate chronographs!

Mar 22, 2010,15:03 PM
 

As much as the 5170J is a dream we would all want to come true, there are other dreams you just can't dream to see happen!

 

Those two watches, and specially the first one, are occupying the exact opposite situation to the 5170 on the Patek Philippe range of hand wound chronographs.

 

They will be as rare, expensive and ultimate as the 5170J will be everyday pleasing our lives (or some of some of us)!

 



Patek Philippe 5950A

 

The « first » one is a "simple" ultra thin split seconds chronograph. It uses no less than the thinnest split seconds chronograph calibre ever made. This calibre CH 27-525 PS was first presented in the still on the list reference 5959. If the calibre was an instantly recognized prowess, the 5959 is by many (not me) considered as much too small with its 33.2mm case.

 



A flat cushion

 

The new 5950 is offering the same calibre in a cushion case of 37 by 37 mm (max length 44.6mm). The watch thickness is only 10.15mm so 0.75mm less than the 5170J!

 



My favourite numerals

 

While we see this year that the 3939 may not be replaced by a similarly designed watch, this 5950 shows a favourite of many style of numeral indexes. I wonder if we will someday see such numerals on a simple watch in the Calatrava range?

 



My favourite Patek Philippe calibre

 

The best calibre IMO in the Patek Philippe range had to be presented in the best material, so the case is in steel (like many of the calibre parts) ! Who needs precious metal case when you get the most understated upperconceived chronograph?

 



Steel

 

Certainly this watch is and will remain for those "in the know"!

 



Black oxydized gold hands and indexes

 

Even the gold parts are black oxydized ! Understated I wrote!

 



An appealing calibre isn't it

 

How can we get also more understated than a monopusher chronograph ?

 

For those wanting even more you can also use the second plain steel back delivered with the watch!

 



Did we even dream about it before?

 

As much as this first watch is understated the second one is made pert!

 



The perpetual sister

 

The perpetual calendar split seconds version 5951P is transfigured by a very strong dial that is really different to everything we have seen so far from Patek Philippe.

 

In fact the watch is differently appealing. Firstly by its perpetual calendar plate adding two millimetres to the thickness, for a total thickness of 12.35mm.

 

This plate is totally new and brings 148 additional components in a volume of a disc of only 27mm of diameter by 2.05mm of thickness! Amazing no?

 



One counts the seconds, this one counts the eternity

 

Patek Philippe has applied for two patents with this new calendar plate that will certainly be the rarest production perpetual calendar by Patek Philippe. One concerns the constant force applied for the date change at the end of the month, be it  a month of 28, 29, 30 or 31 days.

 



Much better looking in real than on pics

 

If the 5950 was perfect in steel, this sister is offered in a platinum case.

 



Diamond for platinum

 

Some will prefer the simplicity of the 5950, others will see the 5951 as a super 5004 (that it will not replace, the 5004 still being in the catalog at a very different positioning). I can just say that I love the 5950 much more, but the 5951 is much better in real than on pics!

 



The same perfect back of the two sisters

 

Anyway I'm very happy to see this year more offerings based on the extraordinary calibre CH 27-525 PS! These dreams will still be there once we will have put a 5170J on our wrists. smile

 



Darth Vader's watch

 

If you're tempted to criticize the 5951 for its daring look, let it to those who love it. Anyway nobody asks you to like it!

 



The reset red hands will be only one in the end!

 

And wait for more pics in the future as we still have to see it with the two red central hands reset at 0 !

 



If you need a perpetual calendar

 

And if you want to write bad comments about the 5950A, don't even try here!  smile

 

Cheers

 

Dje

 

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Basel 2010: some live pics of the new range of Patek Philippe chronographs 5170J, 5950A, 5951P, 5960P, 5980/1A and 5980R!

 
 By: Dje : March 22nd, 2010-13:27
Here are finally the different new chronographs issued this year at BaselWorld by Patek Philippe. I can say that several of them are already haunting my dreams. Patek Philippe 5170J I hope you'll enjoy them. Cheers Dje This message has been edited by Dje ...  

Patek Philippe 5170J, the new instant classic!

 
 By: Dje : March 22nd, 2010-14:05
You've already seen the 5170J last week but this time I can share some live pics. As always the BaselWorld conditions are not ideal for pics, still I hope you'll find the watch appealing. Once again the Patek Philippe star is an understated beauty. The be...  

Nice substitute........

 
 By: VMM : March 22nd, 2010-16:30
......if can be a worthy substitute for the 5070. I am pretty sure it will become a world reference again. Bravo. Vte

5170J and 5205 have renewed my faith

 
 By: Mostel : March 22nd, 2010-19:41
in the Thierry era... I can't say I want to own either piece, but I see Real Pateks here. IMHO!

To me, it looks like vintage watch in a modern body.....

 
 By: CL : March 23rd, 2010-05:43
I'm not feeling it. It's neither here nor here. Maybe the white metal or RG version with a different dial may help. But right now, I rather have a true vintage. 5950A is GORGEOUS in real pictures. Thank you Jerome. *CL

I hear you, CL

 
 By: Mostel : March 23rd, 2010-07:47
I think your comments must be part of why I feel no blinding urge to buy, or reserve an example--or even feel big excitement about the color variations (although, I must admit, when this dial gets Arabic numerals, probably on the pt version... it will bec... 

Arabic numerals with leaf hands....

 
 By: CL : March 23rd, 2010-18:44
and more subtle case....it will be heaven. Again, I love the different color on the second hands, nice touch *CL

My pleasure Clang! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-12:39
nt

A great report.....

 
 By: MiniCooper : March 23rd, 2010-11:35
many thanks... true, very difficult to take great pictures at the event... however you took us there.... and it was enjoyable.... can't wait to see it in metal.... cheers

WOw

 
 By: SimplyComplicated : March 31st, 2010-21:59
Jerome, I love the brown and Rose combo. But for long time, I have not seen such a great yellow with a black strap. thanks for sharing. I love it.

Patek Philippe 5950A and 5951P, the ultimate chronographs!

 
 By: Dje : March 22nd, 2010-15:03
As much as the 5170J is a dream we would all want to come true, there are other dreams you just can't dream to see happen! Those two watches, and specially the first one, are occupying the exact opposite situation to the 5170 on the Patek Philippe range o...  

those split-seconds hands of 5951P

 
 By: LarryFRCGP : March 23rd, 2010-18:54
are so red, so enticing and bold. Certainly bring out the primordial desire of true collectors. Larry

So true ...

 
 By: wso : March 23rd, 2010-22:53
but it is one's dreams that make one's life whole. The 5950A is definitely love at first sight for me. Wondering if there will be a 5950p down the road? And last but not least, thank you Jerome for all the nice pics. Cheers, WS

You're welcome! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-12:40
nt

So many watches, so little money

 
 By: efftee : March 24th, 2010-00:30
How depressing is that? Not one for chronos (dunno why, just don't get it) but the 5950 is tugging pretty hard, I must say. But was an illusion or did I really see the retail price published somewhere at over 300K Euros?

300K Euro for 5950A is a truth

 
 By: LarryFRCGP : March 24th, 2010-13:42
so the watch remains an illusive truth for me at least, my target actually being the 500K Euro 5951A..those red slim stockings..I mean hands... Larry

Bonjour Jerome, very nice write up, thank you. Your question...

 
 By: Sandgroper : April 2nd, 2013-03:44
"will we see these type of numerals on a simple Calatrava?" Yes on the 5196P! And this is, in my opinion one of the main reasons which makes this particular Calatrava so enchanting.:) Cheers, Francois

Patek Philippe 5960P with blue dial, the elegant blue chronograph!

 
 By: Dje : March 22nd, 2010-15:19
Let me begin to say to those who love the slate grey dial of the original 5960 that the original is not discontinued but completed by this gorgeous blued dialed version. The perfect colour for enjoying the greatness of life After four years of life the 59...  

Flawless.

 
 By: VMM : March 22nd, 2010-16:39

5960P looks like

 
 By: Mostel : March 22nd, 2010-19:39
a table to throw bets down on.... the color makes it very busy in pics...

Oh, boy . . .

 
 By: Park : March 23rd, 2010-14:40
Dje, This is my top choice from this year's offerings. I have the unfortunate habit of wanting multiple variations of the same watch, once I discover what I really like, and I really like my 5960P. These photos give me my target for next Xmas. Thanks for ... 

Lovely....

 
 By: Davo : March 24th, 2010-22:05
Love the blue dial version. Thanks for sharing all the info and pics, Dje.

It was a pleasure. nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-12:43
nt

Patek Philippe 5980/1A and 5980R, the sports chronograph!

 
 By: Dje : March 22nd, 2010-15:39
Patek Philippe reference 5980/1A has been one of the most looked after complicated pieces in the last years. The blue dialed version in steel is still offered but is now completed by a second dial variation of charcoal to black nuances. Patek Philippe 598...  

Thank you Jerome............

 
 By: Topcat30093 : March 22nd, 2010-17:26
For the lovely photo report.

5712 is still on the Patek site

 
 By: gqmagic : March 22nd, 2010-19:30
The gold 5711s are no more, but it looks like the gold 5712s are still around. Did you hear different?

Thank you for all those pictures

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : March 22nd, 2010-23:24
The 5170 is great indeed, but ofcourse they had too. It is a watch wcich is good enough to be the successor of the 5070. Must be great to own both. If only 1 is possible ,... you guys know my choice ;-)

Your 5070 is gorgeous enough to do without a 5170.....

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-12:51
But if you could get both! Dje

Thanks for all the live pictures, Dje!

 
 By: dxboon : March 23rd, 2010-08:19
The live pictures are particularly convincing IMO that this year's range of Pateks was overall very nice, with one truly outstanding, amazing, just brilliant (to me) watch that goes into Daos' Ridiculously Attractive Watches Archive (My personal highest h... 

My pleasure Daos! nt

 
 By: Dje : March 29th, 2010-12:52
nt

Thank you...

 
 By: MiniCooper : March 23rd, 2010-11:41
again Dje.... The new Nautilus dial... is it like the wg version or more black? thank you Cheers ps great report

Great report Jerome !

 
 By: DrStrong : March 23rd, 2010-13:45
some really nice stuff....yummy...

Blue dial Nautilus Chrono will be discontinued!

 
 By: tempus : March 23rd, 2010-23:09
It will be be supplied this year but discontinued not later than Basel 2011. That's the information my AD received from PP in Basel!

:)

 
 By: aldossari_faisal : March 27th, 2010-07:10
they re distilled the meaning of sporty elegant watch. Thanks for posting. Faisal

5960 vs 5980 vs 5712

 
 By: nitediver : April 3rd, 2010-21:38
thanks for a wonderful report Dje. great to see all these exciting new PP's coming along...while most of them are completely out of my range, some are om my radar... I am very much fond of the 5960 and i think the way PP does the annual calender is really... 

Super pics, Jerome...

 
 By: amanico : March 23rd, 2010-14:23
How did you manage to get those pics, my friend? Thanks for this post. I have to think about the 5170 ...As I don't really what to think. Best, Nicolas

you'll buy one in 2013

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : March 23rd, 2010-14:55
it also took you a few years to realize you need a 5070 ;-) so a 5170 is on it's way but you don't know it yet lol

I doubt about it...

 
 By: amanico : March 23rd, 2010-14:59
Too perfect for me, with some serious imperfections... See, for example, the pulsometer ring, which is eaten by the 2 counters. Then, the Roman XII and 6 are not my taste at all. On the other side, the movement is better included on the 5170 than on the 5... 

about the case

 
 By: Bruno.M1 : March 23rd, 2010-23:05
I agree with most things you say but not about the case. for be the 5070's case is one of the mosr beautifull cases I ever saw. and I can't see a reason whyt the 5170's case would be more elegant

I said it because the 5170 case is thinner, smaller,

 
 By: amanico : March 23rd, 2010-23:09
As well as the bezel. But, once again, I prefer the 5070 to the 5170, by far, because it corresponds more to my personal taste. Best, Nicolas

5170

 
 By: vecioalpinn : March 24th, 2010-00:47
I prefer the 5070. The new watch seem me on e clatrava....but it's good the new pulsation climb. (excusme for my english but I have not studied english)

5170 is simply beautiful...

 
 By: arolex : March 28th, 2010-14:18
a very elegant chrono.dress watch (not too big, not too small). I'm looking at the the most recent Antiquorum catelog (2nd page) shows a vintage Patek 1463 two register chronograph. The similarities are clearly apparent,... right down to the straight swor... 

Sorry, I forgot...

 
 By: arolex : March 28th, 2010-14:22
Thank you Jerome for those wonderful pictures. Cheers, Arthur.